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    The Multiversity series as a whole, yes. You'll notice I said "some issues of Multiversity", not Multiversity as a series. I'm thinking of the first issue of the book (Multiversity #1), where Morrison just seemed to throw a bunch of random ideas in to the story, going at a mile a second. There's certainly a coherent plot hiding beneath the chaos of Milligan's Kid Lobotomy. I was making the comparison more to the fact that Morrison would throw random ideas at the page and then boil the story down to something more tightly structured as the series went along. Compare that to Morrison's less ambitious projects (such as Klaus) where Morrison only uses one real idea and shapes up a linear plot, with one barebones cohesive narrative. At its heart, Kid Lobotomy is the story of a failed son of a very rich, judgmental man who is getting his chance to make his father proud by being given the chance to make his father's hotel in to something profitable, while his scheming sister thinks that she deserves this opportunity and will do what she can to derail any of her bother's chances to have success. The hotel has deep sentimental attachment to the main character, due to his childhood memories. Mix in the backstory of said brother having mental health issues in the past and undergoing a radical new type of therapy, and his dealing with this as he attempts to run this hotel. Imagine that plot being written by William S. Burroughs, where there is a ton of other stuff being thrown at the page, and that's Kid Lobotomy. The main plot isn't all that interesting, by itself. I expect to see Milligan pare down his ideas in to something coherent and more tightly structured as the series goes on.
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    Oh, come off it, Christian. Multiversity was a very tightly structured narrative, it just wasn't structured around a linear plot.
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    I'd say Morrison still does it quite a bit, and some of that work is the better for it. Some of his better structured work doesn't really stand out as being all that great....Klaus, Avatarex, Joe the Barbarian, Wonder Woman (off the top of my head).... I was disappointed by all of the above, because they read like they were written by writers other than Morrison. Meanwhile, things like Superman Beyond or some of the issues of Multiversity had the same insanity to his earlier work, and they stand out as better reading experiences than his more clearly plotted out books.
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    I thought he'd stopped doing that twenty odd years ago and his stuff has been a lot more structured and plotted out since the late '90s?
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    In fact he is, but he tries to keep quiet about that. His family insisted that he change his name when he went into writing comics rather than a respectable field like stand up comedy. The name on his birth certificate is "Cannock Chase".
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    dematteis looks like the long lost brother of chevy chase
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    Yeah, I was a fan of that run
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    Yep, that was him. His run was from sometimes in the early-1980s.....maybe '83 or '84. I only read it later on though. I had no interest in a character like GR when I was a kid.
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    Did he write the Carnival of Fear stuff and the Centurious stuff?
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    No, I was out of comics for a while and the 90s Vertigo brought me back, so I missed out on a lot and hadn't heard of JM before then
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    ^ That.
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    I really like the tail end of the original series as well, but I think the Danny Ketch series is a lot better than it gets credit for, particularly (as Christian says) when it was obviously doomed to cancellation and the writer (Ivan Velez?) just went as gleefully batshit as he could towards the end.
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    I can't argue with any of your points, in fact I agree with most of them. Ghost Rider IS a problematic character that Marvel doesn't know what to do with, and really never have, that has had just as many low creative points as high ones. I'm a fan of most of the Mackie run on the character, it is by FAR the best work he ever did, but you're dead-accurate about the rest. Fleisher did really well for his first year or so before degenerating into fill-in quality stories near the end, the earlier superhero style stuff by Tony Isabella and Jim Shooter was nothing to write home about either. The Felipe Smith/Tradd Moore series had such promise, with Robbie Reyes as a new Ghost Rider, but even that petered out after the first arc and never really recovered.
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    Yeah, I've read most of the Ghost Rider comics, and I can't really say much about the quality of most of the Ghost Rider comics. I've often found him more of a great idea for a character who often doesn't work well within the stories. Those original issues, with Jesus and Satan, were pretty damn cool. Then, I didn't enjoy the book again until DeMatteis took over (well, yeah,, there was a brief Roger Stern run before DeMatteis that set up the DeMatteis run, which was fine too), and I consider that the high point of the Ghost Rider character. Then, yeah, I can't say that I found Ghost Rider worth reading again until Aaron. After that, it was downhill again, for mine. Even Michael Fleisher, who I would expect to take the book in a direction like he did the Spectre (as the two characters are very similar), couldn't put together an entire run worth reading. The problem with the original series, bar the DeMatteis run, in my estimation, was that creators never knew what to do with Ghost Rider....was he a horror character, was he a superhero, was he simply a supernatural superhero? The creators would tell very bland stories, for the most part, that didn't play up to Rider's strengths. The Danny Ketch series did sort of go a way towards correcting this, by setting GR in a horror setting, but the majority of that series was written by Howard Mackie. Granted, it was the best work Mackie ever managed in comics. It was still over 50 issues of Mackie shaping the character though. Plus, I really like the Johnny Blaze character. Danny Ketch wasn't anywhere near as interesting of a character. So, the second GR series was never going to appeal to me in the same way as I wanted the original series to do (but really only accomplished briefly as the beginning and end of that book). I liked the idea of there being many incarnations of the Ghost Rider spirit, and all the historical additions to the character, with there being a Ghost Rider for every period of history. Aaron really pushed that idea, which was only touched on a few times in the previous Ghost Rider on-going titles (Fleisher hinted at it with the Phantom Rider in the original series, and then the post-Mackie issues fully introduced the idea in the second series, but the book was already headed towards cancelation by that point).
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    Ghost Rider's my boy, I run both a blog AND a podcast about the character. He's had LOTS of great creative teams in his history, but DeMatteis (and Roger Stern before him, I sort of lump them together since they both had Bob Budiansky as artist/co-plotter) was responsible for the character's highest quality run, bar none. Jason Aaron came the closest to matching him, I think.
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    I was pretty sure that you had read more by DeMatteis, Lou. Didn't you also read his run on Ghost Rider? I thought I remembered you agreeing with me that his run on Ghost Rider was the only really quality work on that character. Although, I do have a fondness for the early issues of that series, when Marvel allowed Jesus to be used as a character. A lot of DeMatteis' best work was non-creator owned books (although Seekers would have to stand out as his best, period)....well, considering that he's been writing comics since the early-1980s, and has only had a handful of creator owned books in that time, the majority of his work has been for Marvel or DC properties.
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    I'm not seeing a lot more promise from the Black Crown imprint. Kid Lobotomy looked like the best book from the bunch. It's a hyper comic book, to be sure, but I thought there was enough underlying premise worth looking in to that made it worth a second look. I felt he was trying too hard to make people think about different takes he had done on his Shade book. I felt that was a major drawback. I don't know, Grant Morrison's comics are often just him throwing random ideas on the page, and then trying to sort through the wreckage for ideas worth pursuing further. I expected that Milligan would end up going in that direction as the series progresses. It can't keep going at this level of irreverence for an entire series, but I thought there was enough ideas worth pursuing to see if the second issue is an improvement. I'm not seeing anything from Karen Berger's imprint that looks any better either. Even the Anne Nocenti comic (who is usually one of my favourites), I will have zero interest in if it's just another parable about the Donald Trump presidency.
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    I thought you'd read the JLA stuff he cowrote with Giffen as well? If you're taking the line that only creator owned comics are significant, that's all of Hellblazer, Swamp Thing and Sandman out the window, for a start...
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    Truth be told I have only read Seekers, Brooklyn Dreams and Moonshadow so I really have no other reference
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    I tried Kid Lobotomy # 1, won't be back for Kid Lobotomy # 2. I enjoyed Milligan's Shade, hell I even dug a lot of his Hellblazer up to a point, but KL just read like nonsense to me. It was like he was just throwing every random thought he had against the page without cutting out the detritus. Detestable comic and not a good indicator of what Black Crown is going to be serving us. I wasn't much looking forward to Shelly Bond's imprint anyway, especially when you've got Karen Berger setting up a near-identical shop across the street at Dark Horse in the near future that looks so much more promising.
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    Wild Storm # 8 out this week, and I'm getting some mixed emotions about this series. While I love a lot of what he's doing with the Wildcats (though where the fuck have Voodoo and Zealot vanished to after the first couple of issues?), I'm not exactly digging how he's mixing and matching the Authority characters. We get three Authority revamps in this issue, sort of, and I don't think they work in comparison to how elegant and streamlined the original character concepts were. I'm dancing around spoiler territory, so I'll wait until others get to read it before I talk about it any more. I'm still sold on the series, will still be reading for the foreseeable future, but this was the first big crack in the series for me.
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    I got to speak with him about his run on Ghost Rider several years ago, he did an interview for my blog, and he was so nice and agreeable to all of the questions I had for him about what was an important and defining set of comics for me in my youth. I have nothing but the highest regard for DeMatteis, the guy is a class act.
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    Which can make up for all sorts of failings in some of his other work, no question.
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    Christian, by way of consolation, here's J.M. singing for you.
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    HAHAHAHA maybe get a Cthulu avatar to boot
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