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#1 Bran the Blessed

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 07:17 PM

Well minus the specials (especially Bad Blood, as a monarchist I just can't get through the blasted thing) but I am gonna read Lady Constantine next.

Still, I'm gonna say a few maybe slightly controversial things.

My most favourite writer for Hellblazer is Delano, but not really much into Ennis' run. I did read much of his stuff when I was wee, but to tell you the truth, I don't think the man can handle Supernatural. In Preacher the whole "physically looking for God" aspect was put on hold right after the very first story arc and never came up again. Only time Custer crossed paths with God was when God wanted him to. Add to that all of Heaven amounting to a bunch of useless angels with no powers of any kind, a trenchoat wearing maniac who can kill God because god have him guns strong enough to kill him with, and he made Genesis cause he wanted the love of something more powerfull then him.....and that despite him being able to cancel it's powers at will.......and then the copout two page letter from Custer about "I could never find the guy, not in a hundred lifetimes", basically giving a middle finger to the audience etc.

His Hellblazer run really did not develop as I hoped, and probably his worst John centric story was the one about the body snatchers. So utterly pointless. Worst issue period is the solo issue with Kit. Sorry, she was never intersting and devoting a whole issue to make a time capsule of Irish daily issues in the 90's is a good social experiment, but makes for terribly boring reading.

Jenkins was a breath of fresh air. I really enjoyed his stories, despite being burdened with the omnipresence of the Devil which Ennis forced onto the series. Last Man Standing is brilliantly insane.

Sadly he was followed by Azzarello. And Azzarello had 99 % of his run take place outside of the UK, had almost nothing supernatural and every issue was John playing mind games with thugs. Every single issue. It got tedious quick.

Carey I really liked cause he abandoned the one off stories in favour of two large interconnected arcs that spanned his whole run. Mina and Diggle were pretty alright in their own ways, I liked the India story for being something with no connection to hell, which is something the series relied on a bit too much. Kinda makes me wish they'd somehow shipped John to Japan for a story like one fan asked for in the letter column.

And Milligan was an utter blast for me. I really liked Epiphany, she was fun, competent and did not let the weird shit get in the way. And it was a bit nice to see John just a bit more settled down.

Of course the ending well....I did not like the fact it ended period. I did not yet read any of the relaunch titles but I already hate the idea of relocating the series to New York cause it's not like it's the most overused setting ever or anything (Titanic levels of irony) and the first issue of the relaunch has a cover that just screams "bland and toothless".

So there's my two cents.

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#2 Lou K

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 07:25 PM

Hiya! I first read your nick as Brian the Blessed and as a huge Flash Gordon fan I got excited, if only for a little bit, damn my eyes.

Anyways I was lock step with you the whole way til Milligan but hey, to each their own. He had his moments.

Anyways, welcome aboard. I rather liked Lady Constantine, though I had not read it since it came out.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 07:46 PM

View PostLou K, on 25 August 2015 - 07:25 PM, said:

Hiya! I first read your nick as Brian the Blessed and as a huge Flash Gordon fan I got excited, if only for a little bit, damn my eyes.

Anyways I was lock step with you the whole way til Milligan but hey, to each their own. He had his moments.

Anyways, welcome aboard. I rather liked Lady Constantine, though I had not read it since it came out.

Have you tried All His Engines? Good stuff

Not read All His Engines or heard about it for that matter.

And don't worry, though I have yet to see Flash Gordon, I absolutely adore Brian Blessed. Best King of England ever.

So about Azzarello then, I hear everyone praising his run. But I found it just plain boring and lacking in substance. If I'd ever re-read the series, his issues would be the least likely I'd touch. And that has nothing to do with John being, or playing up to being bi, hard to say giving he wanted to fuck over Stanley in quite a different way. Btw Manor was the only good thing about Azzarello's tenure, as he is the most hilarious Bruce Wayne parody ever.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 07:50 PM

AHE is a hardcover so may be pricy to come by but if you liked Carey then you should like this. Feels like a classic John tale. Sure do want to re-read it now.

I don't think you'll find a lot of praise for Azz around here. I loved the opening prison arc and Agent Tulo but aside from that, well, he left a to to be desired.
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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:00 PM

View PostLou K, on 25 August 2015 - 07:50 PM, said:

AHE is a hardcover so may be pricy to come by but if you liked Carey then you should like this. Feels like a classic John tale. Sure do want to re-read it now.

I don't think you'll find a lot of praise for Azz around here. I loved the opening prison arc and Agent Tulo but aside from that, well, he left a to to be desired.

I didn't like the bit of 100 Bullets I read so it's maybe just his rather boring style that puts me off I dunno.

Thanks for the recommendation, will try doing that.

Now let me return the favour: I'm making a thread about my Vertigo Vault project. Next thing I cover is "Muktuk Wolfsbreath, Hard Boiled Shaman" which is kind of like Hellblazer with Eskimoes, if I had to describe it. Check it out if you can, if you want another middle aged womanising asshole fighting off the supernatural by the skin of his teeth.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:05 PM

Hi, Bran.
I think I read Mutuk Wolfsbreath. That'll be a much quicker read than all of Hellblazer. :wink2:

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:08 PM

View Postdogpoet, on 25 August 2015 - 08:05 PM, said:

Hi, Bran.
I think I read Mutuk Wolfsbreath. That'll be a much quicker read than all of Hellblazer. :wink2:

Well at 3 issue, it would concern me if it wouldn't be : P

Though it sorta has been for me due to other commitments and....shut up XO

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:19 PM

Oh yeah I remember Muktuk by terry whatshisname. Good stuff

And I think you're right about azz. He can be very slow at times. Sometimes I hate that he has to be sooooo cryptic and soooooo mysterious that after I've read a certain arc I'd be like "HUH?!?!?"
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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:24 PM

Before I go to visit the nocturnal realm, I have a final question: Is the Chas standalone any good ? Might give that a go after AHE.

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Posted 25 August 2015 - 08:28 PM

I don't think I read it. Something about it put me off. Can't recall.

I also would not bother with Trenchcoat Brigade.
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Posted 25 August 2015 - 11:16 PM

I'm surprised someone actually liked Milligan's run. I've heard so much bad that it sometimes overshadows that some did enjoy his run.

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Posted 26 August 2015 - 03:28 AM

I liked a few bits of it, but the bits I didn't like were just so UGH to me that it tainted the whole run. It's kind of refreshing to see someone enjoy it all.

And yeah, Trenchcoat Brigade isn't very good. It has some interesting ideas, but it goes all over the place and needed about a million redrafts.

I really enjoyed Mobfire too. Constantine only has a cameo, and it's during an especially cliched part of the story, but it feels like the same London as in Hellblazer. I'm curious whether the writer (someone called Gary Ushaw) might be a pseudonym of someone more established, because it's just too bold and proficient to be someone's only bit of work.
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Posted 26 August 2015 - 11:08 AM

True story. Mobfire was the first time I met JC
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Posted 26 August 2015 - 11:17 AM

And a good story.

I'm pretty sure Gary Urshaw is a real person, not a pen name. He did a bit of work for Deadline back in the day as well.




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