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#41 James

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Posted 08 October 2004 - 09:30 AM

I dunno, the latest Lucifer storyline has Fenris explaining the whole "people eating his essence" in every issue.

I see what you're saying, though.

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 02:25 AM

This has been bothering me for a while now.  Back in the Tainted Love, John's all destrought over Kit leaving him and he's at a coffee shop and he flips out.  He tells this waitress how she touched her sister when she was a baby or something.

So, my question is this, does John have sort of ability to see the evil in people? Or is it just a low-grade form of telepathy?

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 06:36 AM

John's done it before too. I always took it to be his amazing "luck". He has the ability to guess things that happen to be right about people and their past.
I seriously doubt it is "telepathy". I don't think it's "a way to see evil" either. John isn't the best magician, and definately doesn't show this ability regularly.
It seems like when he needs to know it, it comes to him, and he says it. I don't even think it's anything concious.
Of course, I've read that the "All His Engines" GN is going to show John seeing dead people when he was a boy, so maybe John is just some high and might magician like Dr. Strange after all....
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 09:07 AM

The preview suggests that the skeleton is something from our own time that's going to pop back to an earlier point and haunt young John, possibly after older John offers up his soul in exchange for releasing the coma patients (I'm just making this up but it sounds plausible enough).

QUOTE (Nico @ Oct 10 2004, 03:25 AM)
This has been bothering me for a while now.  Back in the Tainted Love, John's all destrought over Kit leaving him and he's at a coffee shop and he flips out.  He tells this waitress how she touched her sister when she was a baby or something.

So, my question is this, does John have sort of ability to see the evil in people? Or is it just a low-grade form of telepathy?


He does it a couple of times in the Ennis run and I think a few times in Jenkins' run as well. No explanation, so Christian's is as good as any.

Or possibly he's trained himself to read the minds of the weak or something. Why not?

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:33 AM

I would say it's the sort of intuition that Tim Robbins character has chemically enhanced in Code 46, and which psychological performers such as Derren Brown use. John's obviously got a predisposing hereditary factor too.
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:45 AM

That's all well and good, but how would you kill Wolverine?

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Posted 10 October 2004 - 11:01 AM

read his mind, tell him he touched his sis and grany as a child, and have him commit suicide. (he'll then self-hypntise himself to think he's a duck).
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 10:56 PM

Ah, but the real question is, could Wolverine actually commit suicide?!

, "possibly after older John offers up his soul in exchange for releasing the coma patients "
Wait! John sells his soul, AGAIN, in this GN?! How many times can one man sell his damned soul?!
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Posted 10 October 2004 - 11:02 PM

They're just using familiar terminology.

He's really leasing it. It's a time-share for the soul.
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Posted 11 October 2004 - 07:32 PM

don't touch that soul! Who knows where it's been!
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Posted 11 November 2004 - 04:21 PM

QUOTE (Christian @ Oct 10 2004, 06:56 PM)
, "possibly after older John offers up his soul in exchange for releasing the coma patients "
Wait! John sells his soul, AGAIN, in this GN?! How many times can one man sell his damned soul?!

No, it's really just a second (or is that third?) mortguage.  Even Hell has to keep throwing new twists on the old game.
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Posted 22 November 2004 - 11:18 AM

OK, here's a question for the boffins.

Since I'm reading through HB in TPB form, there are some new characters in Ennis' run, and I don't know who the hell they are.  I can pretty much work out the deal with most of them, but who the heck is the big bearded guy who looks like a norse god or some such, the one who organises JC's party in Forty?

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Posted 22 November 2004 - 11:30 PM

That's The Lord of the Dance, a pagan god of merriment whom John met one strange Christmas in issue 49 (one of the uncollected Ennis issues).

The Lord of the Dance had been down ever since the Christians converted his people, so John took him to a pub celebrating Christmas where he met up with Chas and his mates and they all got drunk. Pleased to learn that the modern world still has enough of a soul to party, the Lord returned to his former glory and promised John he'd keep an eye on him.

The only other characters that were introduced prior to that issue are Zatanna (regular DC character for years, now; a talented magician), Kit (introduced in Dangerous Habits), Ellie (a succcubus, also seen in DH) and Nigel (scrawny psychic Socialist with a ponytail who helped John trap a serial killing demon in the uncollected "Royal Blood" arc).

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 12:07 PM

Ah, cheers.  I can now continue reading with a minimum of bewilderment.  Damn DC and their reluctance to collect all of Hellblazer!

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Posted 23 November 2004 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE (James @ Nov 23 2004, 01:30 AM)
The only other characters that were introduced prior to that issue are Zatanna (regular DC character for years, now; a talented magician), Kit (introduced in Dangerous Habits), Ellie (a succcubus, also seen in DH) and Nigel (scrawny psychic Socialist with a ponytail who helped John trap a serial killing demon in the uncollected "Royal Blood" arc).


I still don't understand why they never collected Royal Blood (together with HB #50, which is a pretty necessary issue to fully get the later King of the Vampires storyline)
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Posted 23 November 2004 - 06:21 PM

Because the success of Preacher meant that they went straight to the point at which Dillon became the regular artist.

Only two Hellblazer books had been released before Fear and Loathing, and they both tanked.

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 09:43 AM

Help me out here. Okay this blood transfusion thing right. In Dangerous Habits The First "rebuilds" Johns body right. The blood has helped John in the Past. So my question is I am sure the First noticed the blood thus why didnt he reconstruct Johns body sans uber-blood?

Seperate Question In Careys HIGH ON LIFE Angie got a dose of Nergal's blood. What does this mean for now? And will Rosacarnis sense this aswell?

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 10:20 AM

John McMahon reckons that Constantine shouldn't have kept the demon blood as well. I just don't think about it. Maybe he figured that it would help keep John alive whilst he figured out how to break the deadlock(and it did - remember the King of the Vampires).

I guess Angie's as tainted as John, though she probably got a more watered-down dose.

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 12:57 PM

Thanks James. There's another problem festering in the brain, The First of the Fallen. Now if he is the first then SANDMAN has LUCIFER right. Now my question is is the first THE DEVIL or A devil. Who is the true king of hell LUCIFER or the First?
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Posted 24 November 2004 - 01:18 PM

Oh man, not this one!

As explained in Rake at the Gates of Hell, The First is God's excised conscience, removed at the very Beginning, before his first Creation. He was booted out of Eden when he realised that God was apeshit insane.

Lucifer is an angel (and along with Michael, the joint most powerful) who was cast out from the grace of God for being a bit uppity*. The First was already there when Lucifer fell.

The First is the King of Hell because he actively wants to take up the mantle. Lucifer just let Hell accumulate around him and took up the role until he decided that he should stop doing God's bidding. At which point he buggered off to Australia for a bit.

Some have pointed out that the First is the Jewish Devil, the Adversary who serves God's will by testing the faithful (the Christians sort of mixed him up with Lucifer, who is a fallen angel). The First is Satan, the serpent in the garden and the active opposer of God's kingdom. Lucifer is himself, a bored and dangerous angel.

Lucifer's also a lot funnier (though he's become less dryly witty as the series has progressed - reasonable, given the stresses he's been under).





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