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#41 James

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 06:30 PM

He arguably didn't write one at all until 201, given that Red Sepulchre introduced the Shadow Dog (and High on Life led directly onto Sepulchre).

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 07:23 PM

QUOTE (Red @ Feb 21 2005, 10:41 AM)
Rogan: How'd you feel about Enki Bilal writing HB? icon_biggrin.gif



I'd shoot him dead, and claim that i did it because he is of albanian heritage....
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Posted 21 February 2005 - 11:03 PM

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Posted 21 February 2005 - 11:37 PM

Manara?

if you had to pick an European pornographer, why not take the BETTER one, and name Serpieri?
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 12:09 AM

i like manara. i like serpieri too.
i just want to encourage the old heads like corben to make the scene.

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 12:57 AM

Map will only nominate former porn-artists, apparently..... icon_lol.gif  icon_wink.gif

OK, I've made my decision. It may not be the best decision for John Constantine, but I'm going with it. The motion is done, it's set in stone, and now we must live with it. After Carey, there will be a revolving writing team on H.B. J.M. DeMatteis and Sam Kieth. I'll leave them on the book for about a year or so, to change the tone of the book from Carey's run. Then, Peter Milligan (straight off his X-Men run, where he becomes a super-mega-star!) will take over H.B. full-time.
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 01:05 AM

QUOTE (Christian @ Feb 21 2005, 04:57 PM)
Map will only nominate former porn-artists, apparently..... icon_lol.gif  icon_wink.gif

you say that as if werea bad thing...actually, i didnt know that Phillip Bond Qualified as a "porn-artist". Where do ifind Bonds naughty work
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 02:43 AM

Maybe we'll get lucky and the guy who did the movie script will sign on.

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 05:45 AM

QUOTE (MagicJava @ Feb 21 2005, 06:43 PM)
Maybe we'll get lucky and the guy who did the movie script will sign on.

FUCK THAT

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 06:24 AM

Phillip BOND....BONDage....see where this going?! icon_lol.gif  icon_lol.gif  icon_lol.gif
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 07:37 AM

QUOTE (Rogan @ Feb 22 2005, 12:37 AM)
Manara?

if you had to pick an European pornographer, why not take the BETTER one, and name Serpieri?


Serpieri doing a project with an actual story that isn't focused on gorgeous women getting raped by alien creatures would be good.
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (James @ Feb 21 2005, 06:30 PM)
He arguably didn't write one at all until 201, given that Red Sepulchre introduced the Shadow Dog (and High on Life led directly onto Sepulchre).



Good point - I actually should have cited 'Game of Cat And Mouse' which is probably the last Carey issue which, despite being a part of the ongoing continuity of his run, could be read totally independently of the rest of it and still make perfect sense. That's the kind of approach I'd like to see more of, because I don't like being in a position where new readers are approaching the title and we're having to say "you might not want to jump aboard now, because it'll make no sense at all..." That kind of thing is OK for the occasional big story-arc, or for the end of someone's run (I wouldn't exactly advise new readers to start with 'Rake At The Gates Of Hell', either), but it's been the default status of Carey's run, really, and I don't like it. Even a Marvel-esque 'Recently, In The Pages Of Hellblazer...' recap page at the start of every issue would be an improvement on the current situation, and given the stream of new readers the film is hopefully going to suck in, I'm surprised no-one's suggested it already.
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (Rogan @ Feb 21 2005, 08:23 PM)
QUOTE (Red @ Feb 21 2005, 10:41 AM)
Rogan: How'd you feel about Enki Bilal writing HB? icon_biggrin.gif



I'd shoot him dead, and claim that i did it because he is of albanian heritage....

Really? I think Bilal is pretty good, actually. (Although my suggestion was a joke. I can't see him writing HB!)

And NO NO NO NO MANARA!
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 10:33 AM

Weird, I just mentioned the Carey/one-shot stories thing on the TPB thread.

Rogan, what's with the Bilal hate ?

We've spoken about the "Legends Of Hellblazer" idea before, would folks go for them treating the main title like that - rotating creative teams who come in to tell the one story and then bugger off ?
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (JohnMcMahon @ Feb 22 2005, 10:33 AM)
We've spoken about the "Legends Of Hellblazer" idea before, would folks go for them treating the main title like that - rotating creative teams who come in to tell the one story and then bugger off ?


Wouldn't necessarily want it to be like that all the time, but a few more standalone, continuity-free stories every now and again wouldn't go amiss. Just look at the way 'All His Engines' was received. Long-term, unless something radical is done, it's the only way the ongoing title would be likely to survive anyway - the appeal of a 70-year old Constantine would, I suspect, be pretty limited, and 'freezing' his age, superhero comic-style, would frustrate a fair few people (myself included). The idea of an 'untold legends of the Hellblazer' would certainly appeal to me, even if it was just the occasional miniseries.
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 12:05 PM

John - i don't hate the man, but i think his writing shouldn't EVER come near the title. My "albanian heritage" remark was just a joke, sort of an insanity plea, since a lot of people dislike the man here just because his real name/heritage...


...i on the other hand, just don't care much for his writing. And after seeing Immortell, i think the man should just stick to his own game, where he can redeem his words with his lovely, though samey pictures...


And yes, i do think Serpieri MIGHT do something good with his talent, for a change... he suffers the smae problem as Bilal and most other great European comic book artists - they shouldn't write their own stuff!
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Posted 22 February 2005 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (Map @ Feb 22 2005, 01:45 AM)
QUOTE (MagicJava @ Feb 21 2005, 06:43 PM)
Maybe we'll get lucky and the guy who did the movie script will sign on.

FUCK THAT


LOL! I think it's a great idea.

I remember reading about J.C. turning Crowley into Demon Constantine and thinking "Now only if John had a teenage sidekick, everything would be perfect."

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 07:59 PM

Who should write the monthly title?

After Carey's done?

Maybe I'll be done with the HB novels at the same time Carey's done there, if he ever is...

And then...

Hey I can DREAM can't I?

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE (jpshirley2005 @ Feb 22 2005, 03:59 PM)
Hey I can DREAM can't I?


If I can, you can.

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Posted 22 February 2005 - 10:00 PM

Hey, there's precedent. The Hellblazer: Papa Midnite miniseries is written by a novelist. And Nancy Collins took over on Swamp Thing after Doug Wheeler finished (although her run was, er, of arguable quality).




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