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#21 Red

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 09:14 AM

View PostKate, on 27 November 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

Two other questions; what was Reva doing with the flashdrive?
Have you seen the whole series? [ Spoiler : She was involved with the project, and wanted to document the atrocities performed on the kids. ]

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And who hired Jessica to spy on Luke and his married girlfriend if it wasn't the husband, and why?
[ Spoiler : Noone hired her, she spied on him because she killed his wife. ]
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Posted 27 November 2015 - 06:10 PM

Thanks, Pal.

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 06:58 PM

View PostRed, on 27 November 2015 - 09:14 AM, said:

View PostKate, on 27 November 2015 - 09:06 AM, said:

Two other questions; what was Reva doing with the flashdrive?
Have you seen the whole series? [ Spoiler : She was involved with the project, and wanted to document the atrocities performed on the kids. ]

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And who hired Jessica to spy on Luke and his married girlfriend if it wasn't the husband, and why?
[ Spoiler : Noone hired her, she spied on him because she killed his wife. ]

I thought at that point it was different.

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#24 Red

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Posted 29 November 2015 - 08:34 AM

Hmmm, maybe you're right, Wolvy.
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Posted 18 December 2015 - 12:09 PM

I found this article to be quite good.

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The trope of the attractive, eloquent manipulator isn’t exactly new. Some might argue it’s what makes a villain compelling; how can someone so evil appear so incredibly charming? Think Hannibal Lecter. Think Tom Riddle (prior to his unfortunate facial disfigurement). Think literally ever member of the Lannister family. Then, of course, there’s the serial rapist trope, which is deployed at the drop of a hat as lazy writer shorthand to tell the audience just how unspeakably evil this person is. Rape is typically used as a plot device in crime shows with disposable bad guys (I’m looking at you, Law & Order: SVU), and usually occurs in clichéd scenarios that perpetuate myths about both rapists and rape victims. The stranger in a dark alleyway. The perverted shut-in. The serial killer who targets sex workers.

Much has been written about Jessica Jones as social commentary on rape and rape culture, and I don’t disagree, but I think the show has illuminated a much more complex and insidious form of abuse—one that gets little, if any, traction in mainstream media. Yes, Kilgrave is a rapist, but his sexual abuse is not of the kind we often see represented on television; he abuses in the context of relationships that seem, to the outside observer, consensual, and it is this—his psychological abuse of his victims, his absolute and total control and manipulation of them, his dominance over their agency and their free will—that make him so utterly terrifying.

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#26 dogpoet

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Posted 23 December 2015 - 07:29 PM

I'm sure there were attractive and charismatic manipulative shits in fiction before Hannibal Lektor and the shower of people out of Game Of Thrones.
But this is wrongthink that denies the eternal now and insists that there may once have been a history, is it not? How loathsome of me to suggest such things...

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 08:37 AM

View Postdogpoet, on 23 December 2015 - 07:29 PM, said:

I'm sure there were attractive and charismatic manipulative shits in fiction before Hannibal Lektor and the shower of people out of Game Of Thrones.
But this is wrongthink that denies the eternal now and insists that there may once have been a history, is it not? How loathsome of me to suggest such things...
Umm, I'm really not sure what you're getting at here?
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Posted 27 December 2015 - 08:52 AM

I think, reading between the hyperbole, that Dogpoet wishes to point out that even in asking people to consider earlier examples of suave bastardry, the marysue.com website relies on fairly recent examples. Thus, they are hoisted by their own pedantry.

But it's worth using examples that the younger folk, stuck in "the now", will understand.
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It's not supposed to be realistic in that sense."

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Posted 27 December 2015 - 09:59 AM

Sure, they could as easily have used the Goblin King, the Godfather, or Dracula, but I'm with Ade - using relatively (up to twenty years old) examples makes it easier for the readers to read. The Mary Sue isn't an academic journal.
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Posted 27 December 2015 - 10:28 AM

Silence of the Lambs is 27 years old ;-)
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"But that's the whole point, it's supernatural, these things happen.
It's not supposed to be realistic in that sense."

#31 dogpoet

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 06:26 PM

Manhunter is older still.

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Posted 29 December 2015 - 10:31 PM

View PostA. Heathen, on 27 December 2015 - 10:28 AM, said:

;-)

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"But that's the whole point, it's supernatural, these things happen.
It's not supposed to be realistic in that sense."

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Posted 30 December 2015 - 01:08 PM

Doh!

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Posted 17 January 2016 - 04:50 AM

this show was great IMO. these netflix marvel shows are really on top of their game. can't wait for season 2 of daredevil and the punisher series.
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like a BOSS.

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Posted 18 January 2016 - 09:38 AM

There will be a second season!
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