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Talking to a snake made of socks - Alan Moore
Started by JohnMcMahon, Aug 03 2006 09:41 AM
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 12:41 AM
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 01:31 AM
If all else fails, PM me with your address - I was able to find the complete run via torrent a few years ago, but I don't know if there's a currently-active version out there.
"As we journey through life, discarding baggage along the way, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from dessication."
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"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 01:43 AM
Um... is it any good? Or rather, is Miracleman as good as it's cracked up to be?
I've got an Alan Moore instalment from one issue of Warrior, and the Neil Gaiman trade The Golden Age. Both left me cold.
I've got an Alan Moore instalment from one issue of Warrior, and the Neil Gaiman trade The Golden Age. Both left me cold.
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Posted 25 March 2007 - 02:44 AM
QUOTE (JasonT @ Mar 25 2007, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um... is it any good? Or rather, is Miracleman as good as it's cracked up to be?
Yes and no, respectively. It's very good - in places, truly excellent - but there are definitely some weaker issues, and for my money Moore would go on to produce significantly better work, both within and without the superhero genre. Still, for some of the earliest moments of greatness from one of the most remarkable talents in the history of comics, it's well worth reading.
Some lovely art, too.
"As we journey through life, discarding baggage along the way, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from dessication."
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
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Posted 26 March 2007 - 12:53 AM
I found it to be a great series, but yes, it's sort of dated.
I love the Neil Gaiman issues the best, but most people like Moore's run better, so your not liking The Golden Age might not mean you won't enjoy the series.
I know Rogan got the series off the internet from somewhere, as he sent me the entire Moore run, but this was about 3 years back.
I found a copy of The Golden Age for $25.00 online, but this was also about 3 years ago. The Moore Trades were all outrageous.
I love the Neil Gaiman issues the best, but most people like Moore's run better, so your not liking The Golden Age might not mean you won't enjoy the series.
I know Rogan got the series off the internet from somewhere, as he sent me the entire Moore run, but this was about 3 years back.
I found a copy of The Golden Age for $25.00 online, but this was also about 3 years ago. The Moore Trades were all outrageous.
Come away, O human child
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
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Posted 26 March 2007 - 01:56 AM
Maybe I've mentioned this here before, but The Golden Age was remaindered in Australia and available pretty much anywhere. I picked up my copy for A$3, IIRC. And I never appreciated it. 
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Posted 01 May 2007 - 09:40 AM
Can anyone point me to online annotations of From Hell? Or at least the translation from German in Chapter 5.
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Posted 06 June 2007 - 10:27 AM
What was that noir comic that Moore did?
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Posted 06 June 2007 - 10:30 AM
"I Keep Coming Back" from the It's Dark in London anthology?
Come away, O human child
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
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Posted 06 June 2007 - 12:17 PM
QUOTE (Christian @ Jun 6 2007, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"I Keep Coming Back" from the It's Dark in London anthology?
I think it is, thanks.
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Posted 25 August 2007 - 09:06 AM
Hmph, Black Dossier has been pushed back to 17th of November, the Absolute Edition is still on scheduale. What's the difference between the two anyway, besides the EP?
More importantly, is there any truth to the the Alan Smithee thing?
More importantly, is there any truth to the the Alan Smithee thing?
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Posted 25 August 2007 - 09:15 AM
That's sort of creepy, just coming up right now.
I recently bought some Daredevil back-issues off mycomicshop.com written by an "Alan Smithee" (Bill Sienkiewicz was doing painted covers on the issues). The web-site offered no other information other than that it was a pen-name. Well, not a big surprise, but after all, John Smith IS his real name, so who would know for sure....heh
From what I could find online, I guess this "Alan Smithee" was Ande Parks working under a nom-de-guerre.
I thought, "Cool. Parks is a pretty good writer." and bought them.
I recently bought some Daredevil back-issues off mycomicshop.com written by an "Alan Smithee" (Bill Sienkiewicz was doing painted covers on the issues). The web-site offered no other information other than that it was a pen-name. Well, not a big surprise, but after all, John Smith IS his real name, so who would know for sure....heh
From what I could find online, I guess this "Alan Smithee" was Ande Parks working under a nom-de-guerre.
I thought, "Cool. Parks is a pretty good writer." and bought them.
Come away, O human child
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
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Posted 25 August 2007 - 12:10 PM
QUOTE (St. Apathy @ Aug 25 2007, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
More importantly, is there any truth to the the Alan Smithee thing?
It's certainly something Moore was talking quite seriously about, but nothing seems to have come of it. Presumably he either changed his mind, backed down, or DC (quite understandably) said "no, piss off", since having his name on the books is quite a sales draw for them.
"As we journey through life, discarding baggage along the way, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from dessication."
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
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Posted 26 August 2007 - 01:04 AM
It's a very anti-bourgeois notion, but does he not want his name associated with these projects period, or just taken from the front cover/spine?
Most people already know, at this point, that Watchmen and V For Vendetta are written by Moore. He's the second most famous comic book creator, after all.
Granted, down the years, people might not know the name Alan Moore and that he wrote Watchmen. There's that chance.
Isn't it a deal closer getting to what happened in most comic books for years? Like, who knows who created the Green Lantern (outside of us fan boys who do research)? There's no "Green Lantern was created by" tags inside DC comic books to keep that memory alive.
I would want my name to be always immortalized with my work. Who cares if a corporation is playing ownership of mental property now, or if I'm not making royalties off a character anymore, or I don't have the rights to resell my work.
It's still my work, and I'd still want my name on my work.
It's not as if DC can give the V character to Geoff Johns and tell him to write V into the DCU in a new mini-series, for example.
Even, or maybe especially in that context, I'd want each story to feature my creation to be credited to the creator, even if he isn't getting paid or having any say in his character's use. Just the fact of who the character was originally created by.
I agree with Moore's stance on his films, but that's a seperate issue.
Most people already know, at this point, that Watchmen and V For Vendetta are written by Moore. He's the second most famous comic book creator, after all.
Granted, down the years, people might not know the name Alan Moore and that he wrote Watchmen. There's that chance.
Isn't it a deal closer getting to what happened in most comic books for years? Like, who knows who created the Green Lantern (outside of us fan boys who do research)? There's no "Green Lantern was created by" tags inside DC comic books to keep that memory alive.
I would want my name to be always immortalized with my work. Who cares if a corporation is playing ownership of mental property now, or if I'm not making royalties off a character anymore, or I don't have the rights to resell my work.
It's still my work, and I'd still want my name on my work.
It's not as if DC can give the V character to Geoff Johns and tell him to write V into the DCU in a new mini-series, for example.
Even, or maybe especially in that context, I'd want each story to feature my creation to be credited to the creator, even if he isn't getting paid or having any say in his character's use. Just the fact of who the character was originally created by.
I agree with Moore's stance on his films, but that's a seperate issue.
Come away, O human child
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
From the waters and the wild;
Take a fairy by the hand,
For the world's more full of weeping
than you can understand...." -W.B. Yeats
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Posted 30 August 2007 - 02:15 AM
I still need to check out Moores Swamp Thing trades. I've heard that Ghost Dance was one of the best stories in it.
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:27 PM
QUOTE (St. Apathy @ Aug 25 2007, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmph, Black Dossier has been pushed back to 17th of November, the Absolute Edition is still on scheduale. What's the difference between the two anyway, besides the EP?
A "we don't know" would greatly put my mind at ease.
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Posted 11 September 2007 - 02:38 PM
We don't know. I'd guess that the Absolute edition will be oversized (like all the others have been), and might feature some form of 'bonus material', most likely Moore's script and some miscellaneous concept design sketches and preliminary work from O'Neill.
"As we journey through life, discarding baggage along the way, we should keep an iron grip, to the very end, on the capacity for silliness. It preserves the soul from dessication."
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
- Humphrey Lyttleton, 1921-2008
"The Doctor remembers every Doctor Who story ever told. Every episode, Target book, comic strip and every game of companions and TARDISes that you played as a kid. The universe he lives in has no record of it, because paradoxes and divergent dimensions and the Time War have reset things... but the Doctor remembers and sometimes when he is sad it's because you've stopped being 8 years old and he can't run around the school playground with you anymore."
- some wise soul on the internet somewhere, 2009
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 06:05 AM
Thanks, Apathy. That should be one of the year's highlights. (The Black Dossier, not the preview of it. 
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Posted 27 October 2007 - 08:41 AM
QUOTE (JasonT @ Oct 27 2007, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks, Apathy. That should be one of the year's highlights. (The Black Dossier, not the preview of it. )
)Don't be too surprised if that's all the LoEG we end up with, it has happened before.
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