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#321 Christian

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Posted 17 February 2012 - 09:52 PM

Ummm...What exactly are you talking about?
It looks like a reply to my post about Saucer Country, but that's not being released until March.
Are you writing to use from the future, Slinker?
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:10 PM

He's talking 'bout the Vertigo preview thing we were talkin' about.
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 11:40 PM

Exactamundo!
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:47 AM

Saucer Country #1-Oh, holy hell! The big message of this book better not be that "all Americans are aliens (i.e. immigrants)". Please lord, no.
At least quite a bit seemed to happen in this first issue. You can't say that about too many comics anymore, month to month. Although, I still have no idea if any of it was any good yet.
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Posted 05 April 2012 - 05:58 PM

Just gone through the first issue of "Dominique Laveau: Voodoo Child", and it hasn't proven a great incentive to read any of the others.
Imagine a truly appalling paste up of a particularly bad novel sharecropped from one of White Wolf's roleplaying games and the worse early '90s launch issue of an Image series that the mind can conceive of, and you'll realise that you didn't have to bother as Selwyn Seyfu Hinds has beaten to to it. This is a heap of shit that not even Denys Cowan's rather nice art can redeem. A shadow war between rival gangs of vodoo cultists (who clearly -quelle horreur!- have a sinister influence on local politics), werewolves, ghosts, a heroine who doesn't know that she's a superheroinemambo who's mum used to be a voodoo queen, and so on. Apart from vampires no cliche is left unmolested, and the sparkly buggers will doubtless be making an appearance mincing about about all gothed up in an issue or two.
Bleah. Not good, is what I'm saying here.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 09:46 PM

Yeah, I had to give that a pass. My girlfriend loves New Orleans, but the synopsis sounded like a lot of stereotypical ideas about New Orleans thrown together, so I figured it wouldn't be any good.

While I'm late on discussing it, the local store just put their left-over stock of Spaceman #1 in the back-issue boxes. I usually don't bother with Azzarello anymore, but with their 50% off sale, that made the book 50cents, so it was an easy buy. I saw the comic got mixed reviews on here.
I actually really enjoyed it. It's something very different from Azzarello, which is good. And, I enjoy this type of bleak, hopeless science fiction set in an entropic future. It's not perfect, but Azzarello gave a nice feel for the dark world being explored.

I actually gave in and tried New Deadwardians #1...even though I told myself I wouldn't, since it was such a rip-off of Kim Newman. Adding zombies really doesn't change that fact.
Nothing happened in the first issue. It introduced an upper class character, who is a vampire. There are zombies kept outside gates, keeping them from the upper class areas. And, a mysterious murder ends the issue, to set up a plot.
There's no real introduction to the world. I was basically just interested to see how Abnett set up the zombie versus vampire world, but that's not explained in the first issue. Whether it's an important part of the wider plot that Abnett introduced, or if Abnett is just being slow in doing anything in the comic, I can't say.
It's not very interesting though, and it's still a rip-off of Newman, so I'm out.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 11:13 AM

I didn't even look at that one. Abnett belongs on a couple of the new 52 relaunches, not bloody Vertigo. Why the hell can't they just give him a Green Lantern title or let him relaunch Adam Strange? That I'd definitely read...

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 02:02 PM

I liked Spaceman myself.
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Posted 06 April 2012 - 09:58 PM

View Postdogpoet, on 06 April 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

I didn't even look at that one. Abnett belongs on a couple of the new 52 relaunches, not bloody Vertigo. Why the hell can't they just give him a Green Lantern title or let him relaunch Adam Strange? That I'd definitely read...

They gave him Resurrection Man...which reads like a poor imitation of the excellent Resurrection Man series he was writing in the 1990s.
He's also still working on New Mutants for Marvel, which is a real sleeper hit.

DC is ignoring their cosmic concepts with the "New 52" though. It wouldn't be a bad idea to get some creators like Abnett or Giffen to do for DC what they did for Marvel's cosmic characters.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:35 AM

Treading water this year, if you ask me

http://www.comicbook...rticle&id=39735

Nothing groundbreaking, in fact the Sandman thing is merely groundraking (maybe it'll be good, but... Remember "Before" Watchmen!)

No mention of Hellblazer. I WONDER WHY.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:28 AM

It is pretty underwhelming, that the Sandman project was the only announcement Vertigo actually had.

At least it's actually Gaiman returning to Sandman...and they got the right artist for the job.
But, somehow, I was much more excited to hear about Gerber's last Man Thing story over this.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:40 AM

Cuz hellblazer sucks. But that Sandman thing looks like it might be pretty good. Things look good then suck ass, of that I'm only too aware, though.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:49 AM

So you guys saw the video Gaiman did?.

Licence to print money I guess.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

So, it will be Sandman...IN SPAAAAAACEEE?!?!

JH Williams + Gaiman on a Sandman story. You can just take my $$ now, if you like. Especially if that will help get it done sooner.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:01 PM

Oh yes, do want.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 01:04 PM

Spaceman 9 issue mini-series by Brian Azzarello And Eduardo Risso.

This was excellent. I can see this being a film, possibly a cartoon. Maybe the best thing from Azzarello/Risso in quite some time. Maybe even better than some 100 Bullets comics as there's very little of those moments that are so mysterious that you're not quite sure what just happened. Honestly this comic should be called Avaunt 2099 as it is the tale of Avaunt's kin in the far future.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:34 PM

I enjoyed Spaceman a lot more than 100 Bullets (or Azz's Heckblazer run). Maybe the ending's still a little weak, but there's some really nice worldbuilding there.

Saucer Country is the only other new Vertigo thing that I'm liking. And not just because an old pal got a mention in the last issue.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:47 PM

View PostTimC, on 12 September 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

I enjoyed Spaceman a lot more than 100 Bullets (or Azz's Heckblazer run). Maybe the ending's still a little weak, but there's some really nice worldbuilding there.

Yeah, the ending was a bit abrupt and left me scratching my head. I am assuming

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 08:34 AM

Really? See, I read Spaceman, but I find it forgettable. In fact, I forget I read it until I see it on the rack. I really enjoyed 100 Bullets, so I'm a little floored by someone saying Spaceman is better.
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:47 PM

To be fair, I'd probably have liked 100 Bullets a lot more if it had been 9 issues rather than, well, 100. (Or, given I read it in trades, if it was just one regular GN-size book). That kind of style-over-content can be fun, but you need something more to carry you over 2000+ pages.

Just ask James Ellroy.
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