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Poll: The State of Hellblazer (24 member(s) have cast votes)

Compared with the history of Hellblazer, it is currently ...

  1. Good (2 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  2. Okay (8 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. Bad (14 votes [58.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

Compared with most other current comics, Hellblazer right now is ...

  1. More interesting (10 votes [41.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  2. No different (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  3. Less interesting (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

I carry on reading Hellblazer because ...

  1. of habit, I am not enjoying it (12 votes [50.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 50.00%

  2. I am enjoying it (7 votes [29.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.17%

  3. (I am not reading it any more) (5 votes [20.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.83%

Cake or Death ?

  1. Death (6 votes [25.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. Cake (18 votes [75.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

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#81 Christian

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 02:41 AM

Oh, Lou. There's been more than one movie. Where have you been, buddy?
Movies have been around since at least the early 1900s. By this point, there have been millions and millions of movies.
Some of them are good. Most of them are bad.
It's a whole new world to discover.
There are places called theatres where you can watch them on a big screen right after they're made, and there are now things called DVDs so you can watch them on your own TV set. They used to be called VHS tapes, but you've missed that fad now.
I'd start with Blade Runner and Metropolis, if I were you.
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 11:05 AM

Huh. Who woulda thunk it
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:20 PM

Also Anaconda (1997).  That snake is deadly!
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Posted 17 October 2012 - 07:04 PM

So is Ice Cube. Ice Cube is deadly. He's a rapper.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:59 AM

View PostLou K, on 17 October 2012 - 07:04 PM, said:

So is Ice Cube. Ice Cube is deadly. He's a rapper.

But he's so cuddly now
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 12:29 PM

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 05:12 PM

Someone please tell me this: Why am I still reading Hellblazer? It's awful. In fact, I'd say it's the worst it's ever been in its entire history. I used to say that Denise Mina's run was the worst, but at least she had an understanding of John's character. Milligan's run is beyond awful--it's a parody of awful. Other than the India story arc, I really haven't enjoyed any of it. John's wife and father-in-law are extremely boring characters; the stories just blindly stumble from one panel to the next without any regard for structure, characterization or John Constantine's established history; and Milligan's writing is simply subpar. Why am I still reading this crap? I can only surmise that I am an idiot.

#88 Lou K

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:38 PM

Drop it. I did and I never looked back. It was a tough decision to come to but better than plunking down $3 every month for this garbage.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:50 PM

He used the money he saved to buy a Blu-Ray of Anaconda.
Now that he's discovered these things called movies, he's going all out!

OK, I admit I don't really know what a Blu-Ray is...
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:14 AM

What are the moral implications of downloading it illegally and not ever reading it?
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#91 Christian

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:34 AM

Like Anaconda? No. I'm pretty sure Blu-Rays are like DVDs, and you can't read them.

I've heard of people buying comic books and just storing them away without reading, because they can't stand the thought of having a gap in their collection. I can vaguely understand that, from an OCD perspective.
I think you might have a serious problem if you feel the need to get every issue for your collection, when your collection isn't even tangible though.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 04:26 AM

No, I meant as a form of protest.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:31 AM

I'm still buying it, out of habit (and a compulsion for a complete collection). But I'm not particularly enjoying it.

The trouble is (and this is also the reason I've been punishing myself on a monthly basis by buying Green Arrow for the past few years), I remember when it was really great and I want to be there when it gets great again.
Sure, I could stop buying it (along with many others), as a protest, in the hope that the guys in charge will notice the dip and act accordingly. Bring in some new talent to freshen it up.

My paranoia, however, sees the exchange at the editor's office going something like "well, we said if the sales fell to X copies a month we'd get rid of this unpopular writer, and that's us at the bottom of the barrel now. We'll get a new team in tomorrow.
Hold on, some guy in the middle of nowhere just dropped it and put it down to X-1. We agreed if it fell below X we'd cancel it so I guess we'll call it a day then. Let's knock off early and go to the pub."
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:18 PM

View PostChristian, on 19 October 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

I'm pretty sure Blu-Rays are like DVDs, and you can't read them.

That's true.  I put my Special "Ballgames and Barbecues, Motherfucker!" Edition Anaconda Blu-Ray into my CD player and the display said "Can't read disc"...

When you download pirated data you're wastefully diverting BILLIONS AND BILLIONS of the electrons that we all agree define objective reality from their original and more urgent purposes, and causing serious wear on the calculators of mathematicians who tally them to keep the universe from disappearing into a swirling sea of fire.  If you're fine with destroying Creation and slowing down Kardashian fan sites, then by all means please let your selfish activities continue.

I have a nicely stocked shelf of trades that won't disappear if X-1 dematerializes the recent branches of the Constantine universe.  If anything I might get my wish in the form of a retcon in the event that occurs.  RELEASE THE KRAKEN!  I mean, COMMENCE THE BOYCOTT!
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 07:21 PM

Atticus, that was why I kept buying it until 290 or so. I think it was when John cheated on his wife and killed a guy that I had had enough. That coupled with the shoddy DC version and both following the only cinematic version that will come from the title, and it was shittier than shit-it just makes me believe DC has no love of the character. He doesn't have the anchored to the bedrock following of Superman or any of their other properties, so they feel like he's this amorphous colorform that all he has to do is shoot lightning out his fingertips and ass and we'll moisten ourselves with glee and freely hand over $4 every time they see fit to shove him someplace else he doesn't belong. And Milligan taking such ridiculous liberties with the character he seems to know every rare now and then amid such horrid actions anyone who barely knew what Constantine was on about wouldn't dream of sending him. A fitting end would be for John to give in and kill himself-not because it fits the character we know and love, but because it mercifully destroys this Jeff Goldblum/Musca domestica abomination, wretched and falling apart version who willingly presses his forehead to the barrel of the rifle and pleads with his eyes for it to end.
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