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to try explain you why i wouldnt give any film a 1 star rating: because im objective. regardless of how much i love or hate a film, i try to see the good and the bad points of it. altough i loved batman begins and constantine eg, that doesnt mean i was always satisfied with them: there are parts i really hated (in c: some corny dialogue/situations, some shit music, the boring middle, rachel weisz wasnt so stunning etc; bb: katie holmes, the overemotionalisation, that it was too long etc.) or i was totally disappointed with sin city, but there were things i liked in it (the male voices, the look of the dames, the visuals, the miho slaughter etc.) so thats why i wouldnt give any film 1 star rating.
I'm not going to give my review here because that's not why i'm here. i'm here to blowholes in the hypocrisy of the people who made this film. And the way they are lying about certain things.
i didnt say that you should write your opinion :)
i just told you why i wrote before that i think people who ive 1 star ratings dont really bother me.
and sure, maybe theyre lying but they did a hard work with the film, regardless of the changes so i respect them. respect is really a thing what lacks nowadays. and knowledge.
It does bother you, that's why you gave such a strong reaction. As for my review, I decided not to give one because I choose not to. It's not why i'm writting thease things
If you want to make this a Keanu crusade because you like him, than that’s up to you( i met him and he was really sweet). I’m just trying to give facts where all I see is bull@#%.
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to try explain you why i wouldnt give any film a 1 star rating: because im objective. regardless of how much i love or hate a film, i try to see the good and the bad points of it. altough i loved batman begins and constantine eg, that doesnt mean i was always satisfied with them: there are parts i really hated (in c: some corny dialogue/situations, some shit music, the boring middle, rachel weisz wasnt so stunning etc; bb: katie holmes, the overemotionalisation, that it was too long etc.) or i was totally disappointed with sin city, but there were things i liked in it (the male voices, the look of the dames, the visuals, the miho slaughter etc.) so thats why i wouldnt give any film 1 star rating.
I'm not going to give my review here because that's not why i'm here. i'm here to blowholes in the hypocrisy of the people who made this film. And the way they are lying about certain things.
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these are the charts of amazon.com. and agreeing on something means nothing for me. because it works like this: you hated it, you agree with the haters. you loved it you agree with the lovers. so: no change.
but, i dont care about other ones opinion anymore. everyone likes otherwise things, everyone wnats to see different thigns and thinks different in everything, so who cares.
and that they didnt have a clue whats hellblazer about, what says that of the film or the one star rating?
i really dont understand your points. but maybe im just dumb.
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Actually, if you read what I was writing, you would have notice that I’m talking about imdb, not amazon. Amazon has my points about the film right there in front of you because a good majority of the one star reviews are from people who did not know that this film was based on a comic book. The biggest complaint about it was the acting of Keanu Reeves and the screenplay. Now I know that there are fans out there that disapproved of the film and wrote a review but their reviews a small compared to the ones from the ones from those who had no clue about the comic book.
Notice that i did not insult you, so don't call yourself dumb. You just have a diffent view on what is going on.
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found on superherohype.net, part two of the uslan interview (producer of batman films, constantine etc.):
SHH!: Has Keanu been signed to do another movie yet?
Uslan: There are discussion ongoing at the moment.
so hope for folks who liked the movie, and a maybe ongoing nightmare for those who didnt :)
i would post the whole interview where he talks a bit about constantine, but i dont want to bother people with that after this and anyway :)
but he was satisfied with it too, altough i know that batman is nearer to his heart.
for them who want to read the interview anyway (hes talking about future projects too: click)
Uslan is trying to save face. Notice (if you read the interview) that he does not mention the bad reaction the movie received after it was released. He only continues to mention the fifteen-minute clip from a year ago that he felt gave a good impression of the movie. Now also look at the quote that he made that the editor from Vertigo would have disapproved of Constantine if she felt there was something wrong for the film (I’m paraphrasing here so bear with me) Now who really owns Vertigo? Or not to mention DC comics in general? If she had a grievance with the film, she would have been fired out right. You might call that extreme but it happens everyday in corporate America, especially if a studio is trying desperately to try to build the next franchise. Notice also that he is trying to lump the first Batman movie and its casting of Michel Keaton as Batman as a source of how people were reacting to Keanu’s casting as John Constantine. Now if you are old enough to remember the whole Batman media bliss of the first movie, you would remember that Keaton proved everybody wrong and was considered the best Batman of the first four films (that was int’l Bale came in and made Batman his own with Batman Begins).
What you are seeing ladies and gentlemen is studio hype and a way of trying to save face.
The sequel is not going to happen.
i give you right until the last sentence. they cant say anything bad because theyre involved. but why didnt he say anything good of swampthing or catwoman? back to the last sentence: you and i cant know.
the money is a proof for that it could happen, the bad word of mouth in america that it doesnt. altough when its so bad, why do i see user ratings between 60-70/ a B in almost every site on the web? lets see. we shouldnt say anything that anyone cant know who isnt in the dccomics/warnerbros family involved at this moment.
when there is a sequel, there is, when not, then not.
The movie did not make that much money and if you are going by the user ratings for this film, notice that the majority of the user reviews are very negative. On IMdb.com, on amazon.com, on Yahoo.com, you get the what i'm saying.
on imdb it has 6.4. on yahoo it has a B. so the majority cant be too negative, thats mathematically impossible. but yeah, it has 2,5 stars out of 5 on amazon, i know. but 71% on rottentomatoes. and so on. it is not bad, just look around.
and it made good money i think, more than sin city. the problem is just that the costs were high :) but the dvd-sells are well, maybe that helps. but i dont want to say anything inproper, so i say again: lets see.
Well, on imdb, you can vote multiple times so that rating does not count. It takes more effort to write a review than to vote on a rating and the majority of the reviews on imdb are very negative. As for Sin City, it cost less to make that movie but it brought in a huge profit for the studio plus there is a huge cry for a sequel for that film. Is there a cry for a Constantine sequel? no. The dvd sales for Constantine have been very good for the first week but it droped hard on the second.
there dont has to be a cry for sin city 2, because there will be :) and didnt i say that constantine was expensive? i dont want to decide if theres a cry for a sequel, i know that i would want to see one. and how do you now that dvd sales dropped hard? no site i know shows the actual places. but if its really like this, well, ok. but it made very good in germany, austria and the uk. after being almost two months released in austrai and germany its still on the boards, and being released for almost one month its also still on the boards in the uk. so again (hmpf): lets see!
(imdb reviews, constantine: 780 comments in total. loved it (more than 6.4): 426 comments. hated it (less than 6,4): 319 comments. wheres the majority here? btw,the most hated it comments had 1 star rating, what is just plainly dumb. i personally think that there very few films who deserve a rating below 4. do you think constantine was so bad? i dont think so. these are for me just not overthinked hate-comments. cuz like i said, thats dumb! especially when even hellblazer fans dont give votes under 5. and when i saw really bad films; constantine had good things in it)
Majority because more people agree with the negative reviews than the positive. Look at the feedback of each review giving. BTW the movie does deserve the one star rating in my opinion. If you read the reviews of the movie, a good number of the one star ratings are from people who don't have a clue on what the comic book is about.
BTW, look at the dvd charts, they have the numbers right there, if you want to see them for yourself. XXX did better than Constantine on its first week and that was beyond bad in my opinion.
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found on superherohype.net, part two of the uslan interview (producer of batman films, constantine etc.):
SHH!: Has Keanu been signed to do another movie yet?
Uslan: There are discussion ongoing at the moment.
so hope for folks who liked the movie, and a maybe ongoing nightmare for those who didnt :)
i would post the whole interview where he talks a bit about constantine, but i dont want to bother people with that after this and anyway :)
but he was satisfied with it too, altough i know that batman is nearer to his heart.
for them who want to read the interview anyway (hes talking about future projects too: click)
Uslan is trying to save face. Notice (if you read the interview) that he does not mention the bad reaction the movie received after it was released. He only continues to mention the fifteen-minute clip from a year ago that he felt gave a good impression of the movie. Now also look at the quote that he made that the editor from Vertigo would have disapproved of Constantine if she felt there was something wrong for the film (I’m paraphrasing here so bear with me) Now who really owns Vertigo? Or not to mention DC comics in general? If she had a grievance with the film, she would have been fired out right. You might call that extreme but it happens everyday in corporate America, especially if a studio is trying desperately to try to build the next franchise. Notice also that he is trying to lump the first Batman movie and its casting of Michel Keaton as Batman as a source of how people were reacting to Keanu’s casting as John Constantine. Now if you are old enough to remember the whole Batman media bliss of the first movie, you would remember that Keaton proved everybody wrong and was considered the best Batman of the first four films (that was int’l Bale came in and made Batman his own with Batman Begins).
What you are seeing ladies and gentlemen is studio hype and a way of trying to save face.
The sequel is not going to happen.
i give you right until the last sentence. they cant say anything bad because theyre involved. but why didnt he say anything good of swampthing or catwoman? back to the last sentence: you and i cant know.
the money is a proof for that it could happen, the bad word of mouth in america that it doesnt. altough when its so bad, why do i see user ratings between 60-70/ a B in almost every site on the web? lets see. we shouldnt say anything that anyone cant know who isnt in the dccomics/warnerbros family involved at this moment.
when there is a sequel, there is, when not, then not.
The movie did not make that much money and if you are going by the user ratings for this film, notice that the majority of the user reviews are very negative. On IMdb.com, on amazon.com, on Yahoo.com, you get the what i'm saying.
on imdb it has 6.4. on yahoo it has a B. so the majority cant be too negative, thats mathematically impossible. but yeah, it has 2,5 stars out of 5 on amazon, i know. but 71% on rottentomatoes. and so on. it is not bad, just look around.
and it made good money i think, more than sin city. the problem is just that the costs were high :) but the dvd-sells are well, maybe that helps. but i dont want to say anything inproper, so i say again: lets see.
Well, on imdb, you can vote multiple times so that rating does not count. It takes more effort to write a review than to vote on a rating and the majority of the reviews on imdb are very negative. As for Sin City, it cost less to make that movie but it brought in a huge profit for the studio plus there is a huge cry for a sequel for that film. Is there a cry for a Constantine sequel? no. The dvd sales for Constantine have been very good for the first week but it droped hard on the second.
there dont has to be a cry for sin city 2, because there will be :) and didnt i say that constantine was expensive? i dont want to decide if theres a cry for a sequel, i know that i would want to see one. and how do you now that dvd sales dropped hard? no site i know shows the actual places. but if its really like this, well, ok. but it made very good in germany, austria and the uk. after being almost two months released in austrai and germany its still on the boards, and being released for almost one month its also still on the boards in the uk. so again (hmpf): lets see!
(imdb reviews, constantine: 780 comments in total. loved it (more than 6.4): 426 comments. hated it (less than 6,4): 319 comments. wheres the majority here? btw,the most hated it comments had 1 star rating, what is just plainly dumb. i personally think that there very few films who deserve a rating below 4. do you think constantine was so bad? i dont think so. these are for me just not overthinked hate-comments. cuz like i said, thats dumb! especially when even hellblazer fans dont give votes under 5. and when i saw really bad films; constantine had good things in it)
Majority because more people agree with the negative reviews than the positive. Look at the feedback of each review giving. BTW the movie does deserve the one star rating in my opinion. If you read the reviews of the movie, a good number of the one star ratings are from people who don't have a clue on what the comic book is about.
BTW, look at the dvd charts, they have the numbers right there, if you want to see them for yourself.
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found on superherohype.net, part two of the uslan interview (producer of batman films, constantine etc.):
SHH!: Has Keanu been signed to do another movie yet?
Uslan: There are discussion ongoing at the moment.
so hope for folks who liked the movie, and a maybe ongoing nightmare for those who didnt :)
i would post the whole interview where he talks a bit about constantine, but i dont want to bother people with that after this and anyway :)
but he was satisfied with it too, altough i know that batman is nearer to his heart.
for them who want to read the interview anyway (hes talking about future projects too: click)
Uslan is trying to save face. Notice (if you read the interview) that he does not mention the bad reaction the movie received after it was released. He only continues to mention the fifteen-minute clip from a year ago that he felt gave a good impression of the movie. Now also look at the quote that he made that the editor from Vertigo would have disapproved of Constantine if she felt there was something wrong for the film (I’m paraphrasing here so bear with me) Now who really owns Vertigo? Or not to mention DC comics in general? If she had a grievance with the film, she would have been fired out right. You might call that extreme but it happens everyday in corporate America, especially if a studio is trying desperately to try to build the next franchise. Notice also that he is trying to lump the first Batman movie and its casting of Michel Keaton as Batman as a source of how people were reacting to Keanu’s casting as John Constantine. Now if you are old enough to remember the whole Batman media bliss of the first movie, you would remember that Keaton proved everybody wrong and was considered the best Batman of the first four films (that was int’l Bale came in and made Batman his own with Batman Begins).
What you are seeing ladies and gentlemen is studio hype and a way of trying to save face.
The sequel is not going to happen.
i give you right until the last sentence. they cant say anything bad because theyre involved. but why didnt he say anything good of swampthing or catwoman? back to the last sentence: you and i cant know.
the money is a proof for that it could happen, the bad word of mouth in america that it doesnt. altough when its so bad, why do i see user ratings between 60-70/ a B in almost every site on the web? lets see. we shouldnt say anything that anyone cant know who isnt in the dccomics/warnerbros family involved at this moment.
when there is a sequel, there is, when not, then not.
The movie did not make that much money and if you are going by the user ratings for this film, notice that the majority of the user reviews are very negative. On IMdb.com, on amazon.com, on Yahoo.com, you get the what i'm saying.
on imdb it has 6.4. on yahoo it has a B. so the majority cant be too negative, thats mathematically impossible. but yeah, it has 2,5 stars out of 5 on amazon, i know. but 71% on rottentomatoes. and so on. it is not bad, just look around.
and it made good money i think, more than sin city. the problem is just that the costs were high :) but the dvd-sells are well, maybe that helps. but i dont want to say anything inproper, so i say again: lets see.
Well, on imdb, you can vote multiple times so that rating does not count. It takes more effort to write a review than to vote on a rating and the majority of the reviews on imdb are very negative. As for Sin City, it cost less to make that movie but it brought in a huge profit for the studio plus there is a huge cry for a sequel for that film. Is there a cry for a Constantine sequel? no. The dvd sales for Constantine have been very good for the first week but it droped hard on the second.
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found on superherohype.net, part two of the uslan interview (producer of batman films, constantine etc.):
SHH!: Has Keanu been signed to do another movie yet?
Uslan: There are discussion ongoing at the moment.
so hope for folks who liked the movie, and a maybe ongoing nightmare for those who didnt :)
i would post the whole interview where he talks a bit about constantine, but i dont want to bother people with that after this and anyway :)
but he was satisfied with it too, altough i know that batman is nearer to his heart.
for them who want to read the interview anyway (hes talking about future projects too: click)
Uslan is trying to save face. Notice (if you read the interview) that he does not mention the bad reaction the movie received after it was released. He only continues to mention the fifteen-minute clip from a year ago that he felt gave a good impression of the movie. Now also look at the quote that he made that the editor from Vertigo would have disapproved of Constantine if she felt there was something wrong for the film (I’m paraphrasing here so bear with me) Now who really owns Vertigo? Or not to mention DC comics in general? If she had a grievance with the film, she would have been fired out right. You might call that extreme but it happens everyday in corporate America, especially if a studio is trying desperately to try to build the next franchise. Notice also that he is trying to lump the first Batman movie and its casting of Michel Keaton as Batman as a source of how people were reacting to Keanu’s casting as John Constantine. Now if you are old enough to remember the whole Batman media bliss of the first movie, you would remember that Keaton proved everybody wrong and was considered the best Batman of the first four films (that was int’l Bale came in and made Batman his own with Batman Begins).
What you are seeing ladies and gentlemen is studio hype and a way of trying to save face.
The sequel is not going to happen.
i give you right until the last sentence. they cant say anything bad because theyre involved. but why didnt he say anything good of swampthing or catwoman? back to the last sentence: you and i cant know.
the money is a proof for that it could happen, the bad word of mouth in america that it doesnt. altough when its so bad, why do i see user ratings between 60-70/ a B in almost every site on the web? lets see. we shouldnt say anything that anyone cant know who isnt in the dccomics/warnerbros family involved at this moment.
when there is a sequel, there is, when not, then not.
The movie did not make that much money and if you are going by the user ratings for this film, notice that the majority of the user reviews are very negative. On IMdb.com, on amazon.com, on Yahoo.com, you get the what i'm saying.
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found on superherohype.net, part two of the uslan interview (producer of batman films, constantine etc.):
SHH!: Has Keanu been signed to do another movie yet?
Uslan: There are discussion ongoing at the moment.
so hope for folks who liked the movie, and a maybe ongoing nightmare for those who didnt :)
i would post the whole interview where he talks a bit about constantine, but i dont want to bother people with that after this and anyway :)
but he was satisfied with it too, altough i know that batman is nearer to his heart.
for them who want to read the interview anyway (hes talking about future projects too: click)
Uslan is trying to save face. Notice (if you read the interview) that he does not mention the bad reaction the movie received after it was released. He only continues to mention the fifteen-minute clip from a year ago that he felt gave a good impression of the movie. Now also look at the quote that he made that the editor from Vertigo, that they wanted Karen Berger aproval. Now who really owns Vertigo? Or not to mention DC comics in general? If she had a grievance with the film, she would have been fired out right. You might call that extreme but it happens everyday in corporate America, especially if a studio is trying desperately to try to build the next franchise. Notice also that he is trying to lump the first Batman movie and its casting of Michel Keaton as Batman as a source of how people were reacting to Keanu’s casting as John Constantine. Now if you are old enough to remember the whole Batman media bliss of the first movie, you would remember that Keaton proved everybody wrong and was considered the best Batman of the first four films (that was int’l Bale came in and made Batman his own with Batman Begins).
What you are seeing ladies and gentlemen is studio hype and a way of trying to save face.
The sequel is not going to happen.
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Bad News: It's doing well in sales! NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!
It’s not doing that well. It did open at the top spot and the fouth spot with the deluxe Dvd but it did not set the world on fire like Tears or anyone would like you to believe. For one, it was a slow week for Dvd sales and two, it was the only major release that was available that week. It needs to break records and stay hot for a sequel to be considered, and it will not. If you notice, word of mouth has still been very bad for this film and it will continue to be, so the studio will not risk itself to produce another sequel. As for the whole Robocop/Terminator ideology that Tear brought up earlier, Both Robocop and the Terminator had strong word of mouth that brought both of them the acclaimed they deserved and both of them were re-release as a result before they were huge on Video, (back then before Dvd).
Yet again, Tears is blowing smoke up you know where.
The sequel is dead.
And again you are misquoting me. I said that IF the DVD sales were great than a sequel might happen but if they weren't Lorenzo's prediction would be true - that the audience if the final word on ANY sequel. I am not the one that is reporting DVD grosses here. So please get your facts straight before dragging my name down yet again.
Thank you
So you did not make that Robocop/Terminator remark right Tears?
Please, you are so full of it.
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Bad News: It's doing well in sales! NNNOOOOOOOOOOO!
It’s not doing that well. It did open at the top spot and the fouth spot with the deluxe Dvd but it did not set the world on fire like Tears or anyone would like you to believe. For one, it was a slow week for Dvd sales and two, it was the only major release that was available that week. It needs to break records and stay hot for a sequel to be considered, and it will not. If you notice, word of mouth has still been very bad for this film and it will continue to be, so the studio will not risk itself to produce another sequel. As for the whole Robocop/Terminator ideology that Tear brought up earlier, Both Robocop and the Terminator had strong word of mouth that brought both of them the acclaimed they deserved and both of them were re-release as a result before they were huge on Video, (back then before Dvd).
Yet again, Tears is blowing smoke up you know where.
The sequel is dead.
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Any word on the sequel yet Tears ?
Nope. I told everyone here a while ago it was shelved. If the numbers were reversed - 140 mill us, 75 world wide, there would already be a sequel in prepro. Now it's wait and see how the DVd sales goes... it's tracking pretty huge for warners but who knows...
In other words folks, the sequel is definitely not happening. It would needs to make back twice of the US gross for even Warner Brothers to even think about a sequel to this film and even maybe that might not persuade them and I guarantee it will not do that. It will do very well as a rental but it will fold after two weeks in retail.
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Now this is the weekly post dedicated to my dear kind gentleman... KRIS!! :unsure:
With cool breezes from this blue and clear Ocean, just for you...
Constantine made another good week and weekend on International markets, it opened second in UK, below Hitch and first in Argentina (still rules in Brazil - YES!!! - doing a blockbuster run here with the best opening of the year and probably another smash in it's second week - double Yes!
) as well a decent total amount in US Box Office. Numbers are below:US - $70,357,000
INTL- $98,300,000 (these are estimated numbers, last week the real numbers were higher, so it's possible that will past the $ 100 million mark by Monday)
Total (estimated) - US$ 168.657.000
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"Constantine" ascended to $98.3 million after banking approximately $7.9 million in 42 territories. Supernatural saga minted a strapping $3.9 million in the U.K., including sneaks, and $351,000 on 66 in Argentina. "
"Constantine" grossed an estimated $7.9 million from 42 territories, bringing its cumulative total to an estimated $98.3 million with the film yet to open in Japan. The Keanu Reeves starrer opened with $3.98 million (including previews) in the United Kingdom, behind first-place "Hitch."
In Argentina, "Constantine" grossed an estimated $350,900 from 66 screens, ranking No. 1 with a 40% market share. In holdovers the heaven-and-hell tale dropped 30% in Brazil in its second week for another $965,000 and a territory cume of $2.95 million.
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
Those are not good numbers. No matter how ocean is trying to spin them, it only shows that a sequel is not going to happen by any standard.
As for Hellboy and the Punisher, both films were made by a fraction of the budget of Constantine, and the reason they are both going to have sequels is the fact that they both are going to have the same budget the next time around.
Constantine is barley going to break even, and a sequel will not happen because of that.
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There will not be a sequel. The movie at best will be a small sucess, not one that will warrant a sequel. Tears is just blowing smoke up your asses again.
I'm starting to think that you're, like, the anti-Matadoor - do you have a vested interest in a sequel not being made ?
(hang on...you're Keanu's agent...aren't you ?!?)
On the wry wit point, James already listed some good examples but two more spring to mind - "I'm John Constantine, and I'm a bastard" and the whole "I lied" bit with the demons in the church.
Nope, I’m just stating a fact that can be check by anybody on this board if they chose to do the legwork to find it. I have been right in how the movie is fairing in the box office so far and I’m pretty confident that the studio will not do a sequel. As for my interest in the sequel, I rather not see a sequel because if they actually cared about making a good movie, they would have not messed up the first time. The “we will do it right next time” argument is a joke and it is a way of talking down to the fans by saying that we did not need to satisfy you guys the first time so we will give you a bone the next. How do I know all of this? I used to work in marketing for a major studio and I do know all the tricks of the trade. It was never their intention to make the movie like the comic book and it was never their intention to please the fans of the comic at all. Regardless of the fact that they extended an olive branch to the fans of the book or the Internet community, they were going to make the movie they wanted to make. You notice how fast they abandon the fans once the script of the film was trashed by the few people who read it.
I wanted to like the movie and I am a Keanu fan (I met him and he was really nice to me) but the movie was terrible and it only showed that the studio really did not care about what they were making.
As for the anti-Matadoor thing, i have never shoved my opinion down anybody's throat and actually been silent with my opinion of the film intill now.
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London has been discussed seriously and there is even an idea that Keanu's conjob is actually from Liverpool, as in the book.
What's your source? I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a sequel even if the film is terrible because terrible comic-to-film movies haven't really hurt a readership before I don't think. Ah well, I'm going to try and find out some more info about a Constantine sequel at SDCC05. I still wish they'd done Chas some justice.
I know the poor but recently enlightened sucker writing it...
As for humor.. you;re right, there was more then I commented on - just didn't feel like the same JC from old. Maybe it was how he was drawn, always hunched over, lighting a cig. Looking ominiously ravaged...
There will not be a sequel. The movie at best will be a small sucess, not one that will warrant a sequel. Tears is just blowing smoke up your asses again.
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Constantine fell 60% this weekend, making $11.8 Million.
Talk about the bad word of mouth 8-)
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Ouch!
I'm no expert on these matters but isn't 30-35% considered to be an average drop-off from weekend 1 to weekend 2 ?
Not for a horror/supernatural or sci-fi. They are expected to fall AT LEAST 50% in the 2nd weekend. That's why they have to open huge. And Constantine is an R. It's behaving as pundits predicted.
My guess is why they're announcing a sequel is because of its overseas box office receipts, and the fact they know they will make it back already. Don't forget DVD. And they didn't pay Keanu 15% of the gross box office receipts like the Matrix movies, so there'll be more in for Warner's coffers.
A movie like Hitch is supposed to have soft falls, as with the genre.
The beta test for any movie star is the opening weekend. That's why Will Smith (Hitch at 43 million) and Keanu (Constantine at 33 million - rated R) are paid the salaries they are paid.....to 'open' a movie. How the movie behaves thereafter depends on the quality of the movie, the word of mouth etc....etc...
Hitch got marvelous word of mouth, as did Meet the Fockers, Aviator, the first Matrix etc.
I think Constantine is heading towards domestic 60 - 70 million, just as I predicted from the beginning. But its overseas box office tally will be double that, so it might make over 200 million worldwide. Overseas, this kind of movie tends play better.
It fell because of the word of mouth, which is really bad. Regardless if it makes more money over seas, I personally don’t think it will make two hundred million dollars world wide because it dropped across the board on it’s second weekend as well.
The only reason the studio said sequel was the fact that they wanted to hype the movie some more and to also hide their disappointment with it as well.
Don’t expect a Constantine 2.
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Constantine pulled in 2million in the US yesterday - again finishing ever so slightly behind Hitch.
Constantine fell like a rock last night, losing over 60% from last friday. I said it last weekend and i was right. :D
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Time will tell - obviously a large drop off next weekend would suggest terrible word of mouth, but I'm not really picking up that kind of vibe.
The vibe is there, trust me. you will see it next weekend.
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Yer man was getting his stories confused - sounds like he was talking about Fear & Loathing - which we've discussed here before as being a possible source for any sequel.
Matadoor & Tears both said that any sequel would adhere closer to the comic character and several folks at Warners were interested in hearing why the movie wasn't proving popular with comic readers.
I wrote this before so i think i should write it again.
Don’t believe the hype. When a studio talks about a sequel just after a movie is release, it a form of hyping the movie to get the people who have not seen it to see it. I went last Saturday to see it with my boyfriend and we saw a lot of walkouts during the middle of the film, so see a drop of 55 to 60% next weekend. They will make a sequel if the movie hits $100 mill but it will not and the word of mouth is not good for the movie anyway, despite what some may want you to believe.
Don't expect Constantine 2.
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While I agree with you that any sequel talk at this stage is meaningless, I don't think Ellis is trying to 'hype' the movie. Quite the contrary, in fact.
I'm sorry but i was not talking about him. I was talking about the studio which is trying to spin the box office of this movie to make seem like it will be a huge hit.
The first weekend was good but don't expect the second to do as well.
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[bAD SIGNAL]CONSTANTINE Sucks Off Satan, Laughs Through Black Semen
bad signal
WARREN ELLIS
CONSTANTINE appears to have taken some $30.5 million in America over the weekend. It already had a $12M opening across Asia.
You can assume that it's going to break even sometime over the next three weeks.
I smell sequel, as they say.
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Don’t believe the hype. When a studio talks about a sequel just after a movie is release, it a form of hyping the movie to get the people who have not seen it to see it. I went last Saturday to see it with my boyfriend and we saw a lot of walkouts during the middle of the film, so see a drop of 55 to 60% next weekend.
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I came across this while i was working at my terminal just now, Enjoy
The Times also has a small review of the movie at the readers opinion board but i did not think that it was worth posting here because it's so small.Mining 'Matrix'
By CHARLES TAYLOR
Published: January 30, 2005
he verbal and visual language of cyber fantasy seems to be a collaboration of Rem Koolhaas and Ralph Kramden. Within neon-bright futurist cities exist the dimmest, grungiest retro interiors. Technological advances sit alongside technological rot.
You can get another glimpse of that visual language in the trailer for the next big fantasy release, the director Francis Lawrence's "Constantine," the story of a supernatural detective adapted from the "Hellblazer" comics created by Alan Moore. If you're not paying close attention, you could mistakenly think that you've stumbled onto one more "Matrix" entry. It's not just the presence of Keanu Reeves as the detective, John Constantine, right. It's also the way the trailer seems to echo the first "Matrix": Mr. Reeves's writhing body as he submits to electrocution recalls the moment when Neo swallows the red pill; Rachel Weisz, her hair pulled back in some shots and outfitted in sleek gray-and-black ensembles, recalls Carrie-Anne Moss; Djimon Hounsou, wearing the kind of hat that might be called dog-park chic, appears to be filling the role of patiently explaining guru, as Gloria Foster did with the Oracle. More generally, the trailer has the same depressive color scheme - drab, washed-out rooms alternating with anonymous cubicled offices - and objects and bodies move as if the air were something you drink to get more fiber.
Hollywood is devouring itself at such a rate that it doesn't take long for everything new to be old again. The things that were so thrilling a mere six years ago in "The Matrix" have become clichés. (In "Elektra," the heroine's leaning out of the way of bullets that ripple the air as they pass is pure thievery.) So it's an open question whether Warner Brothers, the studio behind both "Constantine" (due Feb. 18) and the "Matrix" films, is consciously aping itself with the new trailer or whether such copying is inevitable. The studio may be trying to remind people of how much fun they had at "The Matrix." If only it can keep them from remembering what thudding disappointments the sequels were.
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Milkman, quit being a pussy and victimising yourself cos Tom barked at you a bit, he means fuck all by it, he's not getting personal, he just can't understand why you're getting so wound up about a review you claim not to care all that much about.
For a person who claims not to care so much about Constantine, why bother with the histrionics, brouhaha and fuss you're kicking up about it now?.
If you can't stand a bit of messageboard sparring or aggro then don't fucking post on one, make life easier on yourself and don't bother, its as simple as that but what people won't stand is some whiny whinging shithead trying to make it easier on him or herself by playing the victim when their opinions/points get contested.
In short, grow the fuck up and take it in your stride.
You have a great way in making people feel welcome Kris, if I was a newbie, I would not want to post here after what you wrote.
Great choice of words. Very thought out
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I know that's intended as funny and I did laugh but it made me think about how lazy we've become as a society. We now discount or approve of any art (not that all movies are) by quick witted catch phrases or a part of our anatomy raised or lowered. As if there is nothing in between.
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It's Rome all over again but we're not feeding them to lions, we're chewing them up the public eye.
It's laziness and total disrespect and it's meant to give a 'coolness' factor to the reviewer who "just didn't have the time to expend any more words to this POS."
Very true words, Tears. I'll add that I think this intellectual laziness (which is what it is), while possibly intended to pander to "the masses" (who, by the way, needs ANYTHING BUT being pandered to), also breeds, over time, intellectual incompetence. Writing thoughtful reviews (even if you're slaughtering the movie/music/whatever) is hard work - and needs practice.
Tom is, of course, right that anyone is entitled to express their opinion about culture in any way they want to, but I think people who're actually PAID to make reviews owe it to us to put in a few ounces of sweat in their work.
How close are you to the people who made the movie Tears? :excl:
) as well a decent total amount in US Box Office. Numbers are below:
So are we EVER going to find out who Tears was?
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Tears is Michael Uslan? It would explain alot