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  1. Sadly you are correct. Jezza is indeed from Donny. In fact we very nearly had our airport named after him.

     

    It's been named after Robin Hood. No, I don't know why, either.

     

    An airport almost named after Jeremy Clarkson?

     

    Surely it would be more apt to name a road after him :icon_rolleyes:

     

    Its a bit like naming a cycle lane after Roy Walker.

     

    Doncaster has been trying to claim Robin Hood from Nottingham and Lincoln for a while, hasn't it ?

     

    But Arsehole International would have been a dreadful name for an airport.

  2. Well there's Bride of the Reanimator and the rather remarkably good Beyond The Reanimator. The latter following directly on, over a decade later, as Herbert West is incarcerated after the first two, and (of course) begins to experiment on his fellow convicts. It features a reanimated disembodied penis.

  3. Didn't I say that All His Engines comes after all this business ?

     

    Maria was always the most Constantinian of the Triplets of Evil.

    And my favourite one.

     

    Perhaps we'll see her, Gemma and Angie as "Constantine's Angels" at some point in the future ?

     

    When the solicitation & our discussions identified Cheryl as the probably Hellbound one, I'd observed that she would not be likely to go to Hell after she died, so this way makes sense, and it's almost certainly a trap.

    Although I like the idea of Nergal protecting "his" nemesis (while sneakily fucking up his life via the Chas thing as much as any of the kids have done - other than the Cheryl thing).

     

    Finally for now, I really do not like Camuncoli's art.

    Someone said upthread, the brooding Chas scenes needed something else ...

    perhaps David Lloyd.

  4. That's quite a compliment Ade.

    Here's a look at the finished version.

     

    One of my favorite Gianni works is the illustrated "Strange Tales of Soloman Kane" from Wandering Star. Amazing. Man, I'd break into a clan meeting in black face to get him to do an issue of Hellblazer.

     

    Yep!

    (And doesn't that image I posted look like a certain publicity still from a certain film ?)

     

    I guess your covers just look like covers and not just wildly inaccurate teaser images from what lies within.

     

    One day I'll get to one of these US convention things and meet up with some of the good folks off the internet ! (We're getting as far as NYC in May, but only plan half a day of visiting the comic shops of Olde New Yorke Towne.) Hopefully we can get you to Bristol 2006 - if the Hellblazer and Alan Moore panels I have been involved in go well enough.

  5. Hahaha. It is going to be fun, make him sit through the credits, won't you?.

     

    No fucking way are we staying through the credits.

     

    There's not enough charity money in the world.

    (Not after them surfer dudes in Thailand had it all away.)

  6. I can't do old pull lists, but here's a list of everything I ordered at some pointin 2000.

    Although Planetary and The Authority seem to be missing for some reason.

     

    TITLE subtitle type publisher start year

    HELLBLAZER

    DC VERTIGO 1987

     

    STRANGEHAVEN

    Abiogenesis 1997

     

    STRANGERS IN PARADISE (vol.2)

    Abstract Studios 1997

     

    KABUKI Images

    Image 1998

     

    Hellboy Chained Coffin tpb

    Dark Horse 1998

     

    Invisibles vol.2

    DC VERTIGO 1998

     

    Sam & Twitch

    Image 1999

     

    Invisibles vol.3

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    HEART OF EMPIRE LEGACY OF LUTHER ARKWRIGHT (/9)

    Dark Horse 1999

     

    Heavy Liquid (/5)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    JSA Liberty Files (/2)

    DC U 1999

     

    GIFTS OF THE NIGHT (/4)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Four Horsemen (/4)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Jonah Hex Shadows West (/3)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Brave Old World (/4)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Blaze of Glory (/4)

    Marvel 1999

     

    HUMAN TARGET (/4)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    TRANSMETROPOLITAN

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Promethea

    Wildstorm ABC 1999

     

    100 Bullets

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    SUPERMAN & BATMAN GENERATIONS (/4)

    DC U 1999

     

    Witching Hour (/3)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Batman Dark Victory (/13)

    DC U 1999

     

    GIRL WHO WOULD BE DEATH (/4)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Horror of Collier County (/5)

    Dark Horse 1999

     

    Proposition Player (/6)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Strange Adventures (/4)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Faith (/5)

    DC Vertigo 1999

     

    Day of Judgement (/5)

    DC U 1999

     

    Lucifer

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Ozzy Osborne tumbler

    merchandise 2000

     

    Scene of the Crime tpb

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Berlin

    Drawn & Quarterly 2000

     

    Spider Jerusalem statue

    DC direct 2000

     

    Strange Kiss scripts tpb

    Avatar 2000

     

    Wonder Woman Real Worlds

    DC U 2000

     

    Paradise Too !

    Abstract Studios 2000

     

    Go Girl

    Image 2000

     

    Powers

    Image 2000

     

    Rumble Girls (/7)

    Image 2000

     

    Legends of the DCU

    DC U 2000

     

    JLA (mini JLA DC Johnson)

    DC U 2000

     

    The Simpsons

    Bongo 2000

     

    Beginning of The End (/4)

    AFC Studio 2000

     

    Superman Bizarro World tpb

    DC U 2000

     

    Doom (/3)

    Marvel 2000

     

    Astronauts In Trouble Live from the Moon

    AiT/Planet Lar 2000

     

    Movie Maniac figure ASH, Edward Scissorhands

    Toys 2000

     

    Delirium soft toy

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Bart Simpson comics

    Bongo 2000

     

    Adventures of the Rifle Brigade (/3)

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Murder Me Dead (/8)

    El Capitan 2000

     

    Finder

    Lightspeed 2000

     

    Deadenders

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Punisher kills the Marvel Universe

    Marvel 2000

     

    Punisher (/12)

    Marvel 2000

     

    Aria / Angela

    Image 2000

     

    Weird War Tales

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Vertigo Visions

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Xmen : Hellfire club (/4)

    Marvel 2000

     

    Jack Staff

    DANCING ELEPHANT 2000

     

    Scary Godmother Wild About Harry (/4)

    Sirius 2000

     

    Dexter’s Laboratory

    DC U 2000

     

    Ring of the Nibelung Valkyrie (/4)

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Swamp Thing vol 3

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Ring of the Nibelung Rhinegold (/4)

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Threshold (Dark Blue Cover)

    Avatar 2000

     

    Dark Horse Presents

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Gotham City Secret Files

    DC U 2000

     

    Secret Files and Origins

    DC U 2000

     

    Scary Godmother postcards

    x 2000

     

    Footsoldiers tpb

    AiT/Planet Lar 2000

     

    The Atomics

    AAA Pop Comics 2000

     

    The Disavowed (/6)

    DC Wildstorm 2000

     

    Mr Monster’s Gal Friday

    Image 2000

     

    Sandman Presents Petrefax (/4?)

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Gotham Knights

    DC U 2000

     

    Gahan Wilson’s Grimm Tales

    x 2000

     

    Sentry (/5)

    Marvel 2000

     

    Superman

    DC U 2000

     

    Superman Man of Steel

    DC U 2000

     

    Nobody tpb

    AiT/Planet Lar 2000

     

    DC Two Thousand (/2)

    DC U 2000

     

    Superman Last Son of Earth (/2)

    DC U 2000

     

    Oni Press Summer Vacation

    Oni Press 2000

     

    Smack Dab tpb

    Crazyfish 2000

     

    Action Comics

    DC U 2000

     

    Adventures of Superman

    DC U 2000

     

    Space Circus (/4)

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Maverick 2000 tpb

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Mysterious Suspense

    DC U 2000

     

    HELLBLAZER Bad Blood (/4)

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Radioactive Man

    Bongo 2000

     

    Marvel Boy (/6)

    Marvel 2000

     

    HELLBLAZER Secret Files

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Petra Etcetera

    Gratuitous Bunny 2000

     

    Planetary / Authority Ruling the world

    DC Wildstorm 2000

     

    Astronauts In Trouble Space 1959

    AiT/Planet Lar 2000

     

    Batman Legends of the Dark Knight (/3)

    DC U 2000

     

    Batman of Arkham

    DC U 2000

     

    Last Days in Vietnam ogn

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Accelerate (/4)

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Re-inventing comics

    DC Paradox 2000

     

    American Splendor Bedtime Stories single

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Jenny Sparks Secret History of the Authority (/5)

    DC Wildstorm 2000

     

    Blair Witch Chronicles (/4)

    Oni Press 2000

     

    Battle Axes (/4)

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Hellboy Right Hand of Doom tpb

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    Love in Tights

    Slave Labor 2000

     

    Silver Age 80 page special

    DC U 2000

     

    Silver Age JLA

    DC U 2000

     

    Marvel Knights

    Marvel 2000

     

    Silver Age Secret Files

    DC U 2000

     

    Silver Age Doom Patrol

    DC U 2000

     

    Mallrats trading cards cards

    merchandise 2000

     

    Safe Area Goradze ogn

    Fantagraphics 2000

     

    City of Silence (/3)

    Image 2000

     

    Witchblade

    Image 2000

     

    The Marquis Danse Macabre (/5)

    Oni Press 2000

     

    Superman / Bugs Bunny (/8)

    DC U 2000

     

    Lazarus 5 (/5)

    DC U 2000

     

    Castle Waiting

    Cartoon books 2000

     

    Big Book of the Seventies

    DC Paradox 2000

     

    X Man

    Marvel 2000

     

    Generation X

    Marvel 2000

     

    The Nevermen (/4)

    Dark Horse 2000

     

    JSA 100 page spectacular

    DC U 2000

     

    JLA Real Worlds

    DC U 2000

     

    Louis - Red Letter Day ogn

    Metaphrog 2000

     

    Book of Twilight

    Cartoon books 2000

     

    Superman Mann and Superman

    DC U 2000

     

    Occupational Hazards tpb

    CBLDF 2000

     

    Treehouse of Horror

    Bongo 2000

     

    Swamp Thing Secret Files

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Sunburn tpb

    Alternative 2000

     

    Breakfast Afternoon (/6)

    Oni Press 2000

     

    Channel Zero tpb

    AiT/Planet Lar 2000

     

    The Coffin (/6)

    Oni Press 2000

     

    Outlaw Nation

    DC Vertigo 2000

     

    Batman The Doom that came to Gotham (/3)

    DC U 2000

     

    Rose (/3)

    Cartoon books 2000

     

    Stranger Kiss

    Avatar 2000

     

    Dark Horse Presents

    Dark Horse 2000

  7. It's excellent.

    As Kris said, one of the best films of last year, combining the British version of Guy Ritchie films (sic), a sense of humour ("IT'S A FUCKING ELEPHANT!") and some genuinely moving pathos.

     

    I'll be buying it and copying it to DVD for a friend in the US, so might be able to assist anyone in the US, perhaps a "round robin" copy that gets passed around the VfB forum folks.

  8. And kinda gay. Was he meant to be?

    Considering the Conservative Christian bent that pervades the film, it wouldn't be out of place, would it? Satan's all things evil, right?

     

    Any association of Peter Stormare's Satan with "gay" comes down to the viewer's prejudices rather than anything in the film. It's probably the whole "european actors" = "camp villains" thing that's going on with Hollywood for the last twenty years. ;-)

     

    But John's comment is taking it one extrapolation of prejudices too far.

    Not least because the film's concepts of redemption, heaven and hell and Satan are just plain old christian, rather than "conservative with a big C" (clever pun intended).

     

    Other than the suicide=damnation matter that the film mis-handles, which aspects of the theology would you say are Conservative ? Rather than basic catholic law.

     

    I would like us to differentiate between the political movement of politicians using (their) religion as a method of control (big C) versus those christian-folk who want their religion to not move with the times (small C). There is a difference.

    At least in the often-exposed hypocrisy stakes.

  9. It took 50 rewrites to get the exact muddled feel everyone was shooting for.    Thank god some were willing to go that extra mile to get there.

     

    So i assume that what you're saying now Tears is that all those inconsistencies in the script were actually intentional are you?

     

    Oh for bloody arsing cock's sake don't you (and James) recognise sarcasm when you see it ?

     

    If the bloke doesn't want to say "the studio fucked up" because, you know, he might want work in the future, but he is prepared to say what he was saying when Kris quoted the punchline above, I think there is slack that could be cut here.

  10. Unless I've missed a post by you or Mark:

     

    Mark pointed out the use of the film was an assault on "women as victims".

     

    You postulated that Mr Carey had forgotten that "the empowered woman" was (becoming) just as much of a cliche.

     

    Several people commented, as you noticed, on your use of the word cliche (especially as you were suggesting the writer did not consciously juxtapose the two "cliches".

     

    You denied the negative connotations of the word.

     

    To answer your possibly rhetorical question, yes, you can use reverse cliches to attack cliches for political gain. The extremist version of this sort of action is so-called" positive discrimination".

     

    Furthermore, let's look at the story.

     

    The set up is that the boyfriend is going to kill Gemma.

     

    They watch a film full of cliches about women as victims which Gemma comments on.

     

    AT THAT POINT in the story, the reader is invited to take two perspectives:

    (1) Mike Carey is about to set up a satirical comment by having Gemma overcome the very cliche that she has observed in the film ...

     

    (2) Ooh, Gemma is being so cocky and the same thing is about to happen to her! ...

     

    With the benefit of hindsight and previous knowledge of the way Mr Carey works, most of us went for option 1, but either way would have been in keeping. The latter has already been dealt with in Wes Craven's post-modern horror series, Scream, but it would not have been out of place here.

    Except that I am pleased that Gemma is maturing into Kid Constantine.

     

    Oh and I was speaking against the school of thought that one can criticise a story for being cliched because it has an aspect that has been used before. Or that you can select that aspect out of context and say that it is cliched.

  11. Well, everyone is jumping the gun because I used the word CLICHE (collective GASP), which is a clear example of how mass media exposure to words makes one immediately conjure an image based on popular opinion.

    I didn't once say it was a BAD thing that Carey used the "empowered woman overcoming the male attacker" cliche,...

     

     

    The word cliche has always had perjorative meaning.

    In the absence of the sort of development you are now adding to your statement, your original comment was negative. Nothing to do with "mass media" or any other way you might seek to patronise those who responded to your comments.

     

    (Note the use of certain perjorative terms in my previous sentence.)

     

    If the "woman as victim" is a cliche - employed because it contains many assumptions as a result of most of our societies' gender roles - then it can be assumed as over-used. Therefore, any attempt to address those assumptions will by its nature become over-used for a while, but the end result is that "cliche" becomes less common and we get a more accurate balance of the way people act in stories V the way people act in real life.

     

    For me, a more important use of the term cliche in respect to this story is to say that Gemma's behaviour is cliched Constantinian behaviour. But that's about the story not about the mechanics of the writing.

  12. As was mentioned earlier, it seemed like she was turning into a "plot-device" character (how do we get John to be become invovled in the storyline?  Oh, I know, Gemma is in trouble and he has to rescue her!  This device has now been used twice in Carrey's run).

     

    Nah, just in Red Sepulchre, surely? In the latest storyline, John was already involved before Gemma became a target, and in the end she proved to be more than a match for Simon.

     

    In Bred in the Bone she carried the entire plot on her shoulders. In Staring at the Wall she played a similarly strong, proactive role. She appeared briefly in Out of Season, when she tried to contact John. And yes, she was killed in Happy Families but that wasn't real.

     

    One of the biggest regrets I have about Mike finishing so soon (!) is that I won't get to see any more of his John/Gemma interaction, which I find to be one of the most interesting things in his run. I hope Mina decides to take on Gemma as part of her cast when she starts her run.

     

    I was going to say that.

    Lest we forget, even Luis has grown to see that Gemma's depth has increased since he habitually misread Red Sepulchre - either that or he's just changed his mind randomly (which I doubt). I'll repeat for the new people: If you go looking at actual human behaviour that is employed by a writer within a story, you will always find it being used as a plot device. However, you should not merely go looking for such mechanics if you wish to enjoy a story. When you look at a painting, do you first examine the brush strokes and the frame ?

     

    To claim, as Christian did, that Gemma was "the empowered woman overcoming her misogynistic attacker (which) is just as much a cliche by today's standards" is heading towards suggesting that you can't have people in stories because they ALWAYS have people in stories.

     

    Regarding the "Women in Refrigerator" nature of this arc, when EVERYONE is getting killed, there's only so far you can avoid offing the ladies.

    This is - after all - coming soon after that Sue Dibny murdering thing that was going on in the DCU. It is clear that Cheryl's death is not to be treated so shallowly. And as most people have pointed out, Mr Carey has not so much foreshadowed (or misdirected) the so-called misogynistic* murders of women as set up a great big neon sign with an arrow saying "comics cliche about to be subverted".

     

    *yes, and Basic Instinct is homophobic because of the way it portrays female murderers. <irony off>

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