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sethos    5
Manara?

 

if you had to pick an European pornographer, why not take the BETTER one, and name Serpieri?

 

Serpieri doing a project with an actual story that isn't focused on gorgeous women getting raped by alien creatures would be good.

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Mark    333
He arguably didn't write one at all until 201, given that Red Sepulchre introduced the Shadow Dog (and High on Life led directly onto Sepulchre).

 

 

Good point - I actually should have cited 'Game of Cat And Mouse' which is probably the last Carey issue which, despite being a part of the ongoing continuity of his run, could be read totally independently of the rest of it and still make perfect sense. That's the kind of approach I'd like to see more of, because I don't like being in a position where new readers are approaching the title and we're having to say "you might not want to jump aboard now, because it'll make no sense at all..." That kind of thing is OK for the occasional big story-arc, or for the end of someone's run (I wouldn't exactly advise new readers to start with 'Rake At The Gates Of Hell', either), but it's been the default status of Carey's run, really, and I don't like it. Even a Marvel-esque 'Recently, In The Pages Of Hellblazer...' recap page at the start of every issue would be an improvement on the current situation, and given the stream of new readers the film is hopefully going to suck in, I'm surprised no-one's suggested it already.

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Red    467
Rogan: How'd you feel about Enki Bilal writing HB? :D

 

 

I'd shoot him dead, and claim that i did it because he is of albanian heritage....

Really? I think Bilal is pretty good, actually. (Although my suggestion was a joke. I can't see him writing HB!)

 

And NO NO NO NO MANARA!

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JohnMcMahon    587

Weird, I just mentioned the Carey/one-shot stories thing on the TPB thread.

 

Rogan, what's with the Bilal hate ?

 

We've spoken about the "Legends Of Hellblazer" idea before, would folks go for them treating the main title like that - rotating creative teams who come in to tell the one story and then bugger off ?

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Mark    333
We've spoken about the "Legends Of Hellblazer" idea before, would folks go for them treating the main title like that - rotating creative teams who come in to tell the one story and then bugger off ?

 

Wouldn't necessarily want it to be like that all the time, but a few more standalone, continuity-free stories every now and again wouldn't go amiss. Just look at the way 'All His Engines' was received. Long-term, unless something radical is done, it's the only way the ongoing title would be likely to survive anyway - the appeal of a 70-year old Constantine would, I suspect, be pretty limited, and 'freezing' his age, superhero comic-style, would frustrate a fair few people (myself included). The idea of an 'untold legends of the Hellblazer' would certainly appeal to me, even if it was just the occasional miniseries.

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Rogan    176

John - i don't hate the man, but i think his writing shouldn't EVER come near the title. My "albanian heritage" remark was just a joke, sort of an insanity plea, since a lot of people dislike the man here just because his real name/heritage...

 

 

...i on the other hand, just don't care much for his writing. And after seeing Immortell, i think the man should just stick to his own game, where he can redeem his words with his lovely, though samey pictures...

 

 

And yes, i do think Serpieri MIGHT do something good with his talent, for a change... he suffers the smae problem as Bilal and most other great European comic book artists - they shouldn't write their own stuff!

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Who should write the monthly title?

 

After Carey's done?

 

Maybe I'll be done with the HB novels at the same time Carey's done there, if he ever is...

 

And then...

 

Hey I can DREAM can't I?

 

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www.darkecho.com/johnshirley

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James    38

Hey, there's precedent. The Hellblazer: Papa Midnite miniseries is written by a novelist. And Nancy Collins took over on Swamp Thing after Doug Wheeler finished (although her run was, er, of arguable quality).

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Shawn    297
Map will only nominate former porn-artists, apparently..... :lol:  ;)

 

OK, I've made my decision. It may not be the best decision for John Constantine, but I'm going with it. The motion is done, it's set in stone, and now we must live with it. After Carey, there will be a revolving writing team on H.B. J.M. DeMatteis and Sam Kieth. I'll leave them on the book for about a year or so, to change the tone of the book from Carey's run. Then, Peter Milligan (straight off his X-Men run, where he becomes a super-mega-star!) will take over H.B. full-time.

I have spoken!

 

I LIKE IT! Though I picked Si Spencer, Christian has won me over.

Peter Milligan it is. His X-Force/X-Statix, Human Target: all good. I am warming up to his X-Men writing. Word is his Shade is good also.

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Novelists can write comix--you give us permission?

 

Gaiman is a novelist--so he started with comix. Delano wants to be one.

 

I'm an all-round writer. Written many scripts. Grew up reading comics and sure I could write one. (I did write one stand-alone strip for Heavy Metal magazine once.) Actually here's the secret genesis of The Crow movie: I wanted to create my own comic book series and write it. I thought I should start in indie comix so I wrote to Calibre as I'd seen one of theirs. I hadn't read The Crow comics. I suggested a comic called ANGRY ANGEL (a name I still want to use somewhere) --the guy at Calibre said it sounded too much like THE CROW. So I got THE CROW (an obscure black and white comic) and read it and thought it cinematic. I told Jeff Most about it (he remembers that he told me about it--wrong!) as he was producing a movie roughly based on my "The Specialist" books. Most and I optioned it and took The Crow comic to Edward R Pressman and the rest is botched up weird disturbing movie history.

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James    38

Warren Ellis and Mike Carey are both writing novels at the moment. Alan Moore's published a novel and Grant Morrison's "Lovely Biscuits", a collection of short stories, can still be found here and there. I'm not sure what my point is, but there you go.

 

How much of your Crow script made it through to the final film?

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Future HB writers?

 

Andy Diggle- The bookies fave, but I suspect he has something big and DCU related up his sleeve

Ian Edgington- I liked the Monarchy.

Robbie Morrison- I think he got shafted with a piss poor art team on Authority

John Shirley- If his work on the novelisation of that accursed film is as good as my esteemed collegues say it is (sorry John I can barely bring myself to watch the film so I doubt very much that I'd read the book) then I'd look forward to it

Denise Mina- Not started any of her books yet but I do like a bit of crime fiction

JK Rowling- What? You're telling me she hasn't read "Books of Magic"?

Pete Milligan- The popular choice but with a run on X-Men coming up I can't really see it

Si Spencer- Currently handling JC over in BOM:LIWT would he want two bites at this particular cherry?

 

Anymore?

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A. Heathen    1,162

Perhaps I should also remind people of my suggestion for various writers, doing shorter arcs each, with perhaps one regularly recurring one to keep the strands together.

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Mark    333

I'd really rather like that, at least for a year or two. It's been 'single writers doing mega-runs' for a while now - maybe time to at least try something a little different? Just for a while?

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Rogan    176

it would be cool, and maybe even easier to get bigger/better names on HB, without them having to commit...

 

 

Was it Gaiman, or Karen berger, or someone, that said (paraphrasing) "every writer in the biz has at least one good Hellblazer script filed away in some dusty old drawer"

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JasonT    451

ADRIAN:

... various writers, doing shorter arcs each, with perhaps one regularly recurring one to keep the strands together.

 

 

I'd go further than that. What about following the Superman line?

 

Capitalising on the growth in readership from the kickass movie, they could easily split the title into 4 monthlies, with staggered pub dates so that there's one out each week. Different writer and artist team for each title, but all overseen by a single executive editor. Jon Vankin gets my vote for his grasp of the title's history. They'd all meet say twice a year - in a pub - to nut out the meta-direction of the title, with each team having a certain amount of autonomy as long as they kept to the metacontinuity. Off the top of my head, we'd have:

 

Hellblazer (the current title, renamed)

John Constantine, Hellblazer (numbered from issue 1)

Adventures of Hellblazer

The Smoketacular Hellblazer

 

Regarding "a certain amount of autonomy", obviously it'd have to be done so tightly that you'd need to buy each of the 4 titles to have a prayer of following it. If we start making comics that are satisfying within a single issue, we'll have bloody kids buying them again.

 

- Jason

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Christian    782

I'd say it's a good move on Brubaker's part. He's getting D.D. next too!

 

Back on topic:

.....Ugh to all of this, just ugh!

I think that they should do a new creative team on each story-arc format with "Hellblazer" for the next year or two to settle things down and tone down continuity some. Then, they can pick a writer from there.

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