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Marvel's next big cross-over event has been announced. It's titled "Secret Empire". This may bring to mind the name of the organization responsible for putting Richard Nixon in the White House, from the classic 1970s Captain America story-arc.

No details have been announced yet, but it's expected this will be the resolution to the "Steve Rogers is an agent of Hydra" story-line.

If Nick Spencer's writing the event, it may be worth checking out.

 

You know what just occurred to me? Hydra were very rarely used in the Marvel Universe during the 1970s and 1980s, and only became considered such a huge threat in recent years. They were mainly Nick Fury antagonists originally, and after his book was cancelled, they ended up being used in Captain America a little bit, but that title was always more concerned with Red Skull as the big villain (while there was a connection established between Skull and Hydra, and both are fascists, the two haven't always been closely connected), and Hydra really wasn't used anymore until Nick Fury got his own book again in 1990. I think they only made one appearance in the 1980s, in a one-off story during Denny O'Neil's run on Daredevil. Oh, there was the flashback story in Uncanny X-Men also, which first established that Magneto was Jewish.

I find that interesting. After Nick Fury's new series was quickly cancelled, they were mostly in limbo again until, I think, Hickman's Secret Warriors book, which established them as a much bigger threat, with them then being the main villains in Captain America for a number of years now.

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There's a Marvel Universe by Chris Claremont Omnibus coming out in April. It's probably highly over-priced. There are some books which have already been collected elsewhere, but it might be of interest to some people on this Forum. I own all of the books except for a couple of the UK Captain Britain issues, so I definitely won't have need of acquiring it. Some of the books collected are the post-1991 Claremont, so those won't really be worth going out of your way for either.

Books of interest, never collected before, include the entirety of War is Hell and the entirety of Black Goliath (didn't expect to see those two series ever being collected anywhere), plus his run on Dr. Strange.

A series by Claremont which was collected at one point, but is now long out-of-print, is his run on Man Thing from the 1980s.

Plus, as mentioned, the entirety of his work on Captain Britain. As I said, I've only read a few of those comics (they were included as back-up strips in Marvel Tales at one point), and what I read wasn't exactly Claremont at his strongest. Although, it's certainly a rarity.

The series that's already readily available which they threw in is the Fantastic Four vs. the X-Men mini-series, from the 1980s. A really strong Claremont story, if you haven't read it yet, though.

Then, the newer books included are Contest of Champions II (yawn!), Mekanix (a solo Kitty Pryde in college mini-series, which wasn't anywhere near as good as it should have been....),. and Big Hero 6 (which I didn't even remember that Claremont wrote, I thought it was Scott Lobdell).

 

Most of Claremont's best work has already been collected, but the War is Hell and Dr. Strange runs are both worth your time. I wasn't that big of a fan of his work on Man Thing, it got better towards the end, but doesn't hold up next to Gerber. Still, it's worth a read, although you can probably find it cheap as back-issues (I got the entire series for $1 an issue).

Black Goliath is goofy 1970s fun, but nothing more.

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I'm surprised the Daughters of the Dragon stuff isn't in there.

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Marvel is currently collecting all of the Deadly Hands of Kung Fu magazine. That's where that series was originally published, so I'm sure Marvel plans to collect them in that hardcover instead.

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I was astonished the collection they did of that to plug Palmiotti's miniseries went in and out of print so fast, if I'm honest. Alright, the Heroes For Hire series did turn out to be massive tentacle sex embarrassment, but there was nothing stopping them sticking it in the back of the collection of the original series as an extra.

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Even though it's a tie-in story, I really did like the Dr. Strange Monsters Unleashed issue. It was really fun. You don't need to be familiar with the "special event" series to follow the plot. It was written by Chip Zdarsky, the writer of the just finished Howard the Duck series, which was quite good.

Dr. Strange teams up with Googam, son of Goom, to fight a giant monster in the Arctic wastes.

Googam is one of Marvel's monsters from their 1950s comics, created by Lee and Kirby.

 

I also notice that it looks like Zdarsky is taking over the writing on Spider Man coming up, following the Spider-cross-over-event The Clone Conspiracy. It looks like the Amazing Spider Man is being relaunched as Spectacular Spider Man. Hopefully that means they're moving away from all this "Tony Stark-lite" stuff now. Zdarsky will be a good choice for the book, making Spider Man actually funny again. Slott has definitely over-stayed his welcome.

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I also notice that it looks like Zdarsky is taking over the writing on Spider Man coming up, following the Spider-cross-over-event The Clone Conspiracy. It looks like the Amazing Spider Man is being relaunched as Spectacular Spider Man. Hopefully that means they're moving away from all this "Tony Stark-lite" stuff now. Zdarsky will be a good choice for the book, making Spider Man actually funny again. Slott has definitely over-stayed his welcome.

 

True dat. I dropped it some time ago, and every time I picked up a single issue it felt like a charmless retread. (He said, reductively.)

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Man Thing #1 (by R.L. Stine)-Not bad. It could have used more content, but it got the tone of Gerber's weirdness, and that's important for a Man Thing strip.

Man Thing can now think and talk. At the beginning, he's working as an actor, but the studio decides that he's too much of a C-list character for them to even bother making a movie about...

From there, time is wasted on a retelling of his origin.

Then, it ends with a fight scene against himself.

It really does seem like it'll be worth a read though, as at times, the absurdist inner-monologue of Ted Sallis did remind me of Gerber's writing.

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Then, it ends with a fight scene against himself.

 

:laugh:

 

Is that part as good as you make it sound?

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No. No, it's really not. That was right at the end, where it was "to be continued", so we shall see if it's on the positive or detrimental side of the equation.

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Oh god, yes! I remember Lou saying that A vs. X was one of the worst things he ever read....but, I'm wondering if I vs. X would have beat out A vs. X for him?

It was totally pointless and it was a total mess.

When the conceit of the story was that Cyclops had turned back the mutant cause by destroying an Inhuman terrigen cloud, which was going to kill off every mutant on the planet, there was a real problem with the plot.

Then, you had six issues of pointless fight scenes, with no plot progression. Just plain dull.

Finally, being capped off by the resolution of Medusa of the Inhumans being told that the mutants were so upset because the terrigen cloud was killing mutants, and going, "Well, why didn't anyone tell me?!".

So, the mutants never once thought of addressing their problem with the Inhumans? I was pretty sure they did mention this at one point. Plus, the Royal Family of the Inhumans is so insulated that they didn't even realize that terrigen was killing mutants? How could they miss this fact?

Yes, it was pure idiocy on every level. It was like giving a grade-school class pieces of paper and telling them to write a story where the X-Men and Inhumans start fighting, and then to explain why this was the case.

Sadly, Jeff Lemire was one of the main writers of this book that we all want to forget. Well, Lemire was also responsible for Justice League Dark #0, wasn't he? Where it was revealed that John always really wanted to be Nick Necro. Sad.

 

On the plus side, it does look like the X-titles and Inhumans is going to improve now with the relaunch. The new Inhumans title is going to be written by Al Ewing. Hopefully, it will be a lot better than the direction that the Inhumans have been moving, where they went from interesting characters created by Jack Kirby that I'd like to see more of, to "please, I don't want to read about the Inhumans anymore".

The X-Men titles had become almost unreadable during that time period also, even with a writer of the caliber of Lemire writing the flagship book. They look like they're going to improve with a more "back to basics" ideal.

I vs. X has been a real low-point for Marvel when a lot of their books have been quite worth buying.

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Oh god, yes! I remember Lou saying that A vs. X was one of the worst things he ever read....but, I'm wondering if I vs. X would have beat out A vs. X for him?

 

 

Oh man I sure don't want to find out!

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I'm actually not even sure why many people continue to bother with these event books anymore. They always tend to end up being an awful waste of money.

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I know. At least when event books happened in the early-1990s, even though they were awful, they usually had something big happen that changed things for the Universe. Now, it's like the events happen, and there's a tepid ending, and everything just goes on exactly as before. You don't even have to bother reading them to know what happens. "The X-Men fight the Inhumans....the Inhumans do the right thing in the end, and prove they're heroic. Time for a relaunch!".

 

The exception might be this Secret Empire cross-over this Spring. Nick Spencer is writing it, and it's the culmination of his long-running "Steve Rogers is secretly an agent of Hydra" story-arc. If you've been following the monthly Cap books, it seems like it would be worthwhile to read this, and chances are that it might be a better grade of cross-over book since Spencer is writing it, and basically coordinating everything, since it's his over-arcing plot.

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So, the mutants never once thought of addressing their problem with the Inhumans? I was pretty sure they did mention this at one point. Plus, the Royal Family of the Inhumans is so insulated that they didn't even realize that terrigen was killing mutants? How could they miss this fact?

Probably for the same reason as they keep letting somebody called "Maximus The Mad" out of prison and trusting him to behave himself.

:wink2:

(The Royal family of Attilan have been written as breath-takingly cretinous morons since that stupid War Of Kings crossover, even if we're not having the obvious, anyway.)

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:laugh:

Most likely. You keep expecting them to introduce an Inhuman whose superpower involves playing the banjo at Burt Reynolds...

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Fraction/Brubaker run on Iron Fist is going cheap on Comixology at the moment so picked it up, nearly done with the first trade and really enjoying it. David Aja handles most of the art and he's great but some of the flashback stuff by different artists is absolutely fantastic - especially the scenes set during World War 2.

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Well that last isSue of Foolkiller was excellent.

 

Remember when comics looked like this and we're written like this?

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The big RessureXion relaunch has begun.

Royals #1-This is the new direction for the Inhumans, written by Al Ewing. Ewing is one of my current favourite comic writers, so if anyone can make the Inhumans interesting again, it is Ewing. If Ewing fails, then the Inhumans needs to go away for a long time.

The new direction is similar to the one that Doug Moench used when he took over writing Inhumans in the 1970s, with the Inhumans going in to space in search of their heritage.

The most interesting aspect of this direction, so far, is that Marvel Boy (the Morrison incarnation) is a main character in this book.

At least it's already more interesting than the last Inhumans reboot.

 

X-Men:Gold #1-This is the flagship book for the X-line, written by Marc Guggenheim. It features the core cast of X-Men, with a "back-to-basics" premise. It's really too soon to comment on the book. I didn't really get much of a feel for the book's direction, other than Guggenheim wants us very much to feel like this is a retro-style X-Men comic book. It's not exactly Chris Claremont though.

At least Marvel realized there were serious problems with both the Inhumans and X-title books, and is trying to go about rectifying those mistakes.

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I also picked up the Star Trek/X-Men cross-over that Marvel published back in the mid-1990s. It seemed like an unlikely premise and bad idea, but it ended up not being bad, just was quite fun. It was written by Scott Lobdell. It featured the Shi'ar and Proteus, and actually didn't read as jarring as the concept sounds on paper. Still, just strange that such a comic even exists.

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And Kirk gets to demand that Scotty beams him up.

(Just as well they'd stopped calling Cyclops Slim, or that gag wouldn't have worked...)

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