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isn't she italo american and more or less white as bleach?

Zatanna kinda varied in color.but going by the pail didni zatanna run,she was pretty dark.also on the batman cartoon when she showed up and on young justice zatanna was in fact tan and half italian...her mother wasn't even human homo magi .and once in the comic her hair was wavy,she was in casual dress.not a stretch for her to be a mixed race woman with wavy hair and tan skin.it isn't.we know she is italian because they said so.she could easily be latina with her looks as well.rarely does she appear pale,few artists.and not just that,her facial features (especially her moith and face shape) are ambiguous.her nose too...just sayin...zatanna could be any damn race a person feels like it.And as far as mixed people ,I kenw a guy with blonde hair,blue eyes,red lips and light tan skin (about zatanna's color actually) who could have passed if he wanted too.also knew a chick pale ,red hair and green eyes with wavy hair that was half black.actually..point is mixed people ca. Look many ways and i have seen some who looked like her.hell,madame xanadu could be mixed race and if you change constantine, hair ...he could and made him as tan as he appears in certain issues ...he can easily be a mixed race person as well.(though that would be weird.I kinda like conjob to stay as he is.besides he has a mixed daughter in injustice,there is. Hope there ill be a black constantine ,it just won't be him). the thing with zatanna is that she is white only because sit is breifly shown with her mother looked like...but sindella is so obscure a character and with reboots and retcons...zatanna could be mixed race now with her appearance and nobody mentioned it !the reason i support it is because dc has mostly lame and obscure characters pf color.marvel is much better.Even in their mcu,james rhodes aka war machine tony stark,s bestie is awesome and competant and a lije character.take it a step further with captain america the winter soldier where we have awesome ass badass sam wislon aka the falcon who the fandom has fallen in love witha dn is now captain america himself in the comics after bucky barnes ,steve roger, amputee best freind (okay so he has a robot arm...still counts as disabled because wwhen his arm stops working he is up shits creek.side note..bucky and sam are buddies too and sam is a well rounded character who both in comics and movie is a serious presence in steve roger's life.he was his long time partner and bucky barnesns partner before picking up the sheild).Just saying,an ethnic zatanna is a chance for dc to create an awesome charcter of color,better a female one and y'know...stop looking racist for once.I am delighted about the added xolor in the flash verse...though i am no co fortable with a black wally wext because of the protrayal...i luv my redheaded wally and his oersonality was swapped too.no.

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Just really though..zatanna is obscure enough (and look at her.no really) they can pull it off.that and have john actually be bisexual and maybe sneak some visual evidence in there they'll be in.and. having a strong woman of color as a leading lady and love interest to a bi guy ? Interracial romance+competantheroine +lgbt rep. Is a :) ,bonus points for the male being non het and the female being biracial more so with zatanna,s badassery...double bonus for actually mentioninig the thing with nick necro which also is triple bonus for polyamory (though a minus for it not working out.seriously if we had to pick stanley or nick will pick nick in a heartbeat...cuz he,s not a pedophile and doesn't do weird shit for shits and giggles...an argument could be made that he was really strung out on the magic...and foresaw a future of them leaving,a future of john killing him and helnce did what he did...like with the project thaumaton thing.not saying that excuses the tim hunter thing,fuck him for that but...valid argument..along with the heavy implication of him taking a different course if john and zee were crazy enough to take him back..arguably..if zatanna messed with his head to make him better like with john...the whole dcu probably would have faired better but not relevant.not to mention pandora,s heavy implication tha nick use to be a better person and ??? Broken story line ) if dark universe does it,then dc would have pulled off the unthinkable right under our nose .they would go down in history.just let it be good ,please.

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By the way...who do you vote for dead man? I'm on the fence.i would love to see helna bohnam carter as the nightmare nurse..tem years ago...right now though,I have no idea.

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ok you had me until you mention nick necro, i don't want to see this character ever again.

 

for zatanna, i would cast eva green. shit i would cast eva green for almost everything :wink2: , seeing her in penny dreadful, she could totally nail the part. anyways i get your point, there is a disturbing lack of black folks and black women even more so (see here). and yes you are right, her backstory is so obscure, that you could easily change it for this purpose. the thing is i don't want to have another disaster that was shia as chas chandler :puke: . btw her father is called giovanni, if that is not one italian name, i have never seen one. when i said white as bleach, i had her appearance in books of magic in mind (the four parter from gaiman), but you are right in other versions she looks pretty tan (although some of us white folks can be pretty tan, mostly depending on if its summer or winter :laugh: )

 

regarding black dc superheros: may i introduce you to john stewart a.k.a. the best green lantern (and the only one that rocks this green/black onesie-thingy, that the corps calls a uniform). amanda waller is black and a woman and a fucking powerhouse from tip to toes.

 

btw: i read madame xanadu as asian-american (dunno why though).

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ok you had me until you mention nick necro, i don't want to see this character ever again.

 

for zatanna, i would cast eva green. shit i would cast eva green for almost everything :wink2: , seeing her in penny dreadful, she could totally nail the part. anyways i get your point, there is a disturbing lack of black folks and black women even more so (see here). and yes you are right, her backstory is so obscure, that you could easily change it for this purpose. the thing is i don't want to have another disaster that was shia as chas chandler :puke: . btw her father is called giovanni, if that is not one italian name, i have never seen one. when i said white as bleach, i had her appearance in books of magic in mind (the four parter from gaiman), but you are right in other versions she looks pretty tan (although some of us white folks can be pretty tan, mostly depending on if its summer or winter :laugh: )

 

regarding black dc superheros: may i introduce you to john stewart a.k.a. the best green lantern (and the only one that rocks this green/black onesie-thingy, that the corps calls a uniform). amanda waller is black and a woman and a fucking powerhouse from tip to toes.

 

btw: i read madame xanadu as asian-american (dunno why though).

That is true. Amanda waller is everything.And john stewart to the general public is THE green lantern.that is part of the reaon the movie failed.he is my favorite green lantern next to sinestro before he went bad. (and i can see why u would hate nick necromi am just hung up on the fact he could hav been a decent character but ended up being an utter wuss who was blonded by thirst and other things...that is all i have to say about that.i feel the same about bar toor (barth allen kid flash nu52).both him and nick could have been good characters bu were misses.i stand by that.But more importantly ethnic characters.i forgot to mention that in marvel mcu nick fury is black.in the so ics he was white.it had such aprofound affet that they made nick fury black in the main marvel comic verse via making him. Iracial and the original nick fury's son.this worked perfectly.If it works out,we may start seeing a biracial zatanna roaming around and ahe will be loved.hell...the only thing you need to do to her character design is make her hair coiled or tightly waved.in her current incarnation that is literally it.

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ok you had me until you mention nick necro, i don't want to see this character ever again.

 

for zatanna, i would cast eva green. shit i would cast eva green for almost everything :wink2: , seeing her in penny dreadful, she could totally nail the part. anyways i get your point, there is a disturbing lack of black folks and black women even more so (see here). and yes you are right, her backstory is so obscure, that you could easily change it for this purpose. the thing is i don't want to have another disaster that was shia as chas chandler :puke: . btw her father is called giovanni, if that is not one italian name, i have never seen one. when i said white as bleach, i had her appearance in books of magic in mind (the four parter from gaiman), but you are right in other versions she looks pretty tan (although some of us white folks can be pretty tan, mostly depending on if its summer or winter :laugh: )

 

regarding black dc superheros: may i introduce you to john stewart a.k.a. the best green lantern (and the only one that rocks this green/black onesie-thingy, that the corps calls a uniform). amanda waller is black and a woman and a fucking powerhouse from tip to toes.

 

btw: i read madame xanadu as asian-american (dunno why though).

i can see eva as the enchantress...or she. Ould do nightmare nurse.yeah ,she would be perfext for as the nightmare nurse :)

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here's what colin farrell could look like in the role :

 

colinstantine-159920.jpg

 

i think farrell is a good actor and looks matt ryan esque enough to be a good replacement for matt ryan, but i still want ewan a bit more if we really have to recast him.

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Speedblazer    141

here's what colin farrell could look like in the role :

 

colinstantine-159920.jpg

 

i think farrell is a good actor and looks matt ryan esque enough to be a good replacement for matt ryan, but i still want ewan a bit more if we really have to recast him.

 

I like it. It's pretty good, but I'll wait to see how Evan will look.

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Keanu Reeves is the only guy who did a decent potrayal (ignore the dark hair, guns, and american accent) and im being honest

 

This guy looks like he's going to play the n52 constantine and that's what they're probably going for which is sad.

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Keanu Reeves is the only guy who did a decent potrayal (ignore the dark hair, guns, and american accent) and im being honest

 

This guy looks like he's going to play the n52 constantine and that's what they're probably going for which is sad.

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Speedblazer    141

Keanu Reeves is the only guy who did a decent potrayal (ignore the dark hair, guns, and american accent) and im being honest

 

This guy looks like he's going to play the n52 constantine and that's what they're probably going for which is sad.

 

Keanu was barely close to HB John. He had none of that British wit that John in the comics had (and yes there is a difference between American sass and British wit), and he was more so an action hero with a giant gun rather then a mysterious conman with a trick up his sleeve.

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Matt Ryan isn't close to HB John either. I want someone else to play as him.

In what manner was Matt different that by comparison Keanu was closer to HB John?

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Matt Ryan isn't close to HB John either. I want someone else to play as him.

sarcasm/quick wit ? check.

chain smoking ? check.

skilled at manipulation and con artistry ? check .

reputation for screwing people over ? check .

blonde hair/trenchcoat ? check.

same background with astra/mucous membrane / ravenscar ? check.

makes snappy comebacks at demons and angels ? check.

 

i'm sorry, what ?

 

only real differences were that he didn't get to swear like a sailor and the show did kinda make him out to be too "heroic " particularly in the early eps.

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Matt Ryan isn't close to HB John either. I want someone else to play as him.

sarcasm/quick wit ? check.

chain smoking ? check.

skilled at manipulation and con artistry ? check .

reputation for screwing people over ? check .

blonde hair/trenchcoat ? check.

same background with astra/mucous membrane / ravenscar ? check.

makes snappy comebacks at demons and angels ? check.

 

i'm sorry, what ?

 

only real differences were that he didn't get to swear like a sailor and the show did kinda make him out to be too "heroic " particularly in the early eps.

 

This is my ideal Constantine ^

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Matt Ryan isn't close to HB John either. I want someone else to play as him.

sarcasm/quick wit ? check.

chain smoking ? check.

skilled at manipulation and con artistry ? check .

reputation for screwing people over ? check .

blonde hair/trenchcoat ? check.

same background with astra/mucous membrane / ravenscar ? check.

makes snappy comebacks at demons and angels ? check.

 

i'm sorry, what ?

 

only real differences were that he didn't get to swear like a sailor and the show did kinda make him out to be too "heroic " particularly in the early eps.

 

This is my ideal Constantine ^

well, yeah, that fan film is something i've always loved. i wished those guys'd make more already , like forrealz.

 

since constantine is cancelled someone should just do a hellblazer fan series

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Matt Ryan isn't close to HB John either. I want someone else to play as him.

sarcasm/quick wit ? check.

chain smoking ? check.

skilled at manipulation and con artistry ? check .

reputation for screwing people over ? check .

blonde hair/trenchcoat ? check.

same background with astra/mucous membrane / ravenscar ? check.

makes snappy comebacks at demons and angels ? check.

 

i'm sorry, what ?

 

only real differences were that he didn't get to swear like a sailor and the show did kinda make him out to be too "heroic " particularly in the early eps.

 

This is my ideal Constantine ^

well, yeah, that fan film is something i've always loved. i wished those guys'd make more already , like forrealz.

 

since constantine is cancelled someone should just do a hellblazer fan series

"Oi, guv'nor! Oi'll 'ave yer up the bum, and yer huge fookin' dawg that's tryin' to breek doon the walls o' creation and wipe out the human race an' all!"

(Maybe it's just me taking a dim view of fanfic, but please God no.)

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Matt Ryan isn't close to HB John either. I want someone else to play as him.

sarcasm/quick wit ? check.

chain smoking ? check.

skilled at manipulation and con artistry ? check .

reputation for screwing people over ? check .

blonde hair/trenchcoat ? check.

same background with astra/mucous membrane / ravenscar ? check.

makes snappy comebacks at demons and angels ? check.

 

i'm sorry, what ?

 

only real differences were that he didn't get to swear like a sailor and the show did kinda make him out to be too "heroic " particularly in the early eps.

 

This is my ideal Constantine ^

well, yeah, that fan film is something i've always loved. i wished those guys'd make more already , like forrealz.

 

since constantine is cancelled someone should just do a hellblazer fan series

"Oi, guv'nor! Oi'll 'ave yer up the bum, and yer huge fookin' dawg that's tryin' to breek doon the walls o' creation and wipe out the human race an' all!"

(Maybe it's just me taking a dim view of fanfic, but please God no.)

it's taken almost straight out of a scene from the comics and is extremely well done IMO.

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