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This person is winning.

No he's not: he's picking up on a comedy pantomime version of Constantine if he's going by the books of magic.

(There's only one page of that where Constantine rings true, or at least resembles the character Delano and Moore set up, and hopefully I don't need to name the page in question.)

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Oh now, that's unfair. John's always been considered the laughing magician with the heart of gold under the bleak, black surface.

Moore's John was mostly a cypher. There to be mysterious instead of being a fully-rounded character.

Yes, Gaiman's Constantine in Books of Magic wasn't the same as the one written by Delano, but no one has written John in the same style of Delano.

Gaiman's interpretation of J.C. was valid and not straying too far from the character who was set-up by Moore and fleshed out by Delano. He was certainly completely recognizable.

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Even allowing for your personal mad-on for Gaiman, I'm not sure that "comedy pantomime version" is even remotely fair, or accurate. The Constantine in Books of Magic is a hell of a lot closer to the Moore character than anything Ennis ever wrote, for a start, and while it could be argued that it differs a little from Delano's take, it's certainly just as valid an interpretation of the character as that produced by most subsequent Hellblazer writers, none of whom have written him entirely like Delano did either.

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Even allowing for your personal mad-on for Gaiman, I'm not sure that "comedy pantomime version" is even remotely fair, or accurate. The Constantine in Books of Magic is a hell of a lot closer to the Moore character than anything Ennis ever wrote, for a start, and while it could be argued that it differs a little from Delano's take, it's certainly just as valid an interpretation of the character as that produced by most subsequent Hellblazer writers, none of whom have written him entirely like Delano did either.

The manner in which he tours the States in the second issue of that bears a great resemblance to sets being shifted around in a pantomime: it may be deliberately stressing that the situation isn't any more "real" than the tour of faery or the trip to the end of time, but the business of him haring off to India and then reappearing later the same evening (in the very nick of time) never struck me as having much to do with the character's MO in either Moore or Delano's work.

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Mysteriously vanishing to take care of his own business, only to reappear just in the nick of time is pretty much the be-all and end-all of Moore's version of the character.

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Mysteriously vanishing to take care of his own business, only to reappear just in the nick of time is pretty much the be-all and end-all of Moore's version of the character.

No, that's Nancy A Collins' version.

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No. Nancy A. Collins version was for John to get pissed and start punching out demons. Super-action bi-sexual hero!

 

The whole prospect of "American Gothic" was that John kept appearing wherever Swamp Thing was at to give him a hint where he needed to be for his next fight against the supernatural horrors.

John would give his hint, disappear, and then show up right as soon as Swamp Thing was ready to get his next hint.

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No. Nancy A. Collins version was for John to get pissed and start punching out demons. Super-action bi-sexual hero!

 

The whole prospect of "American Gothic" was that John kept appearing wherever Swamp Thing was at to give him a hint where he needed to be for his next fight against the supernatural horrors.

John would give his hint, disappear, and then show up right as soon as Swamp Thing was ready to get his next hint.

Nothing about him moving through the country without actually covering any of the intervening space though, iirc.

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I can re-read most issues of PREACHER, TRANSMET and HELLBLAZER, but SANDMAN I have to read in smaller chunks, skipping past some issues.

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