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Although Dream would always be a favorite

For his kingdom is one I visit often

Death is also very interesting

After all, she'd be the final escort

Destruction isnt bad either

Since I may have these tinny violent tendencies

Destiny is a little - I suppose- unnerving

As all of life's actions is in his book

Desire is naughty, and full of thoughts I'd rather not disclose

Despair i would rather skirt

 

And the Endless who created those cute butteflies?

And whose thoughts ramble in, and ramble out

I cannot remember her name ...

 

** And now that I am posting this, I cant remember who else ........

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Delirium. I love the character but what she represents scares me. I have known her far too well in the past.

 

Death. A lot of people I love and know were taken by her. There are worse fates.

 

Desire. If any of the endless is evil and to be avoided it is this one. s/he is vain, arrogant and drives people to his/her sister...

 

Despair. My old friend. Of all the endless I know her best.

 

Dream. I prefer Daniel to Morpheus but Morpheus was infinately more interesting. Dream offers comfort and escape, as well as terror. Dream is what makes us feel alive.

 

Destruction. He abandoned his post, meaning destruction is now ungoverned. Without direction. It does not necesarly act as a precurser to improvement and renewal anymore.

 

Destiny. Brilliant as a plot device, dull as an actual character. He is the anti-protagonist, a representation of time and continuity. He was the first and will be the last of endless. He is a very unnerving concept and I wonder what is on the page before he turns it over.

 

The fact that despair is ugly and desire is beutiful is very telling. They are the closest of the endless, two sides of the same coin as it were. Desire is the bait, Despair is the trap.

 

If I could live in the domain of one forever... It would be dream. I would choose The Dreaming over death.

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Ah, but did you ever notice the dichotomy in most of the Endless (until Neil got lazy, :p )?

 

Dream, you think of aspirations and hopes, but he is depressed all the time and gloomy, with no hope.

Death is scary and unknown, but she's a happy, pretty woman.

Destruction becomes an artist, read: a Creator.

 

OK, so 3 out of the 7 anyway....

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Delerium....I know her, but not well. Still, she sometimes protects me from her sister.

 

Despair...No matter how bad things get...even now...I only briefly enter her parlor.

 

Dream...I live in his realm, but it is not the realm of actions. this is my downfall.

 

Destruction...this is me, tonight. I think I've destroyed the last 12 years of my life. The pain of destruction is the joy of rebirth.

 

Death...I'll never know her.

 

Desire...Fucking troublemaker, that one. Still....we're on good terms.

 

Destiny...sometimes I just follow the plot in his book, sometimes I rip out the pages. Though, the act of my ripping them out was written.

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Dream-You can be me when I am gone.

 

Delirium-I skirt around her domain. I see her face, but never bother to know her on a friendly basis. I think she wakes up far too early for my taste.

 

Despair-I spend every night with her. It's lonely and she's the only one up. I call her my dearest friend, but only when no one is looking.

 

Desire-Sometimes I feel she rules my life, other times I never see her at all. I think she's playing games with me, trying to get me more interested in her sister....

 

....Death-I have intimate with her for years. She's a bloody Borderline is that one, a love-hate relationship. Haunting me always, but never commiting. The passionate sex is amazing.

 

Destruction-I fear him. I stay away from him, even though I'm really closer to him than I ever realize.

 

Destiny-My mortal enemy. Always looking ahead to a future I cannot know, keeping me trapped in a past I cannot escape. I want to control the book of my own life, why won't you ever let me? Your sister calls to me again.

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Death is scary and unknown, but she's a happy, pretty woman.

 

 

OK, so 3 out of the 7 anyway....

 

 

Also, besides Desire, Death is the most attractive of them. (Actually, I like her better...I'm not speaking in metaphors now)

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Ah, but did you ever notice the dichotomy in most of the Endless (until Neil got lazy, :p )?

 

Dream, you think of aspirations and hopes, but he is depressed all the time and gloomy, with no hope.

Death is scary and unknown, but she's a happy, pretty woman.

Destruction becomes an artist, read: a Creator.

 

OK, so 3 out of the 7 anyway....

 

I had got the first two pretty early on in reading it and the third was not exactly done subtley so I obviously got that.

 

It is a very good point though that Death and Dream are more rounded characters who do a job and the others are pretty much straight forward anthropomorphic personifications. I am sure this is intentional, that they are raised above their brothers and sisters in that way. Destruction questioned the point of his job and changed but Death did the same and found a whole new approach. I think the fact she saw people in and out personally gave her a deeper understanding and perspective on her job. She taught a lot of it to Morpheus and gave him that personal connection to people, such as Hob Galding, a human he befriended instead of used for his own ends and cast aside for not obeying him.

 

I think delerium, desire, despair, destruction and destiny are concepts that by their very nature too inflexible for change to be possible without becoming something else entirely. This is what happened to destruction who became an artist and delirium, who was once delight.

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I know, it's not exactly revelatory reading, always. :)

 

Ah, but what of Dream's feeling that he was the only being(?)/entity(?) incapable of changing?

Obviously, Gaiman showed this to be untrue, but it didn't change the fact of Dream's (heh) destiny.

Also, Dream felt he was defined by his job. He felt he was nothing without that, where Destruction and Delirium and Death all changed in some way so that they could deal with their job or leave their job.

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I like Dream best of all, let me just repeat.

Because in his realm, I experience everything possible

And in a way, help me traverse the waking paths

**and well, I think Dream is cute

 

I like the stories on Death because ...

it explores the aspects of a tomorrow I am not sure of

And reminds me to respect today

** and Death is sexy

 

I like Destruction in the same way I like a phoenix

Destruction and creation are parts of a whole

** and he's macho

 

Destiny reminds me of too much of the witches 3

the charmed ones uncharmed, i suppose

and i was never one for ball-and-chain

 

And I am sorry about Delirium, for I prefer Delight

for childish ways and childish joys adulthood should not kill

 

and I understand both Despair and Desire, snare and bait

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I love Delirium, she's my all time fave. I like that she speaks in colours and makes butterflies appear. She;s lovely. Mad as a hatstand. Fantastic hair. I like all the ripped fishnet, too.

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Ah, but did you ever notice the dichotomy in most of the Endless (until Neil got lazy, :p )?

 

Dream, you think of aspirations and hopes, but he is depressed all the time and gloomy, with no hope.

Death is scary and unknown, but she's a happy, pretty woman.

Destruction becomes an artist, read: a Creator.

 

OK, so 3 out of the 7 anyway....

 

But Dichotomy was part of the Endless family.

 

That is to say, other than the fact that all creation requires Destruction of some kind, and doesn't Death meet everyone twice?

 

Desire clearly encompasses hatred and jealousy, if ever Despair loses hope she dies.

 

It was Desire that killed Dream of course.

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I wasn't wary of my furniture...BEFORE...

You should be. Mad buggers, them hatstands. And then there's desktidies... best not to go into that...

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I'd ask Dream if I could visit earlier, and stay longer...

Although really in his realm, time has no meaning

Imagine, one could well, discuss things with a "real" Spock

And exchange philosophies, or have Mozart play the piano

 

And if he (Dream) would, to let me remember

when i cross the threshold to wake again

 

btw, think you that Dream can take a page from Destiny

and allow one a sneak peek at tomorrow?

Like a seer ---

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I love the interaction between Dream and Death. From the first time we get introduced to Dream's older sister until...

 

Spoiler:

the very last time they speak when she must take him into her realm due to the attack by the Furies; when she kills him.

 

To me, that last scene in the series between them was tremendous!

 

On another note, I really liked the first Death special (High Cost of Living)but not the second (Time of your Life). I liked the character of Foxglove and her manager, but I couldn't get into that second story.

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Hey Christian -

Why does it have to be a nightmare?

 

Spidey -

That scene (Dream and Death) was indeed tremendous...

but I thought it was Neil Gaiman's way of enabling someone else

to reconfigure Dream

 

And would Death indeed bargain?

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I didn't want to re-use Dream in my sentence, so I chose nightmare, even though it detracted from the Endless analogy.

 

Gen, to address your question:

1.)"You can be me when I am gone"-a quote by Morpheus

2.)Spider got it partially wrong. It was a suicide.

 

Yeah, Death made a bargain with the two ghost kids who became the Dead Boy Detectives, during the "Seasons of Mist" story-line.

 

Spider-I agree with you about the Death minis.

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No, I meant ... if Death was real (oh you know what i mean),

could one bargain?

btw, Death also bargained with Fox's lady friend for the life of her child...

 

And if you watch the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy,

one would be inclined to say yes...

but really.

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