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The Blob could handle the hulk no problem. These super hero names do sound oddly like porn names.

 

Do louis and Superman ever have children? Since, he is an alien they probably couldn't have a child.

I suspect for them to safely have sex he would have to have some krypotnite nearby to sap some of his strength just in case.

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I think the racism he is talking about there is that idea that "black men really like white people more than their own race." Remember the "these black people only want to rape our women, and who could blame them?" remarks?

 

But, I'd say Jason is right in that Dorian seems to be hyper-vigilant, in feeling that Shooter is writing a generalization, instead of writing a scene with a rapist.

 

Besides which, yes, a rapist character should not represent the endearing qualities of any person, race, or sex.

 

"Gay"=Not cool? No....

Gay=Happy! :D

hehehe

 

"Pardon me. My name is Christopher Washington. I am a successful african-american man. I got where I am through hard work and perseverence, and though the common judgement people make is that I got my job because of affirmative action, I assure you that I am the best man for the job. I did this all without compomising my cultural identity. Now that we have been properly introduced, I am going to ass fuck you to death."

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I prefer batmans veiled threat of spanking

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Here is a great one with cop looking up at Louis and Superman on top of building.

 

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"I guarantee he blows a load like a shotgun right through her back!  He'd have to wear a Kryptonite condom, which of course would kill him."

 

 

The Blob could handle the hulk no problem. These super hero names do sound oddly like porn names.

 

Do louis and Superman ever have children? Since, he is an alien they probably couldn't have a child.

I suspect for them to safely have sex he would have to have some krypotnite nearby to sap some of his strength just in case.

 

 

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The Blob could handle the hulk no problem. These super hero names do sound oddly like porn names.

 

Do louis and Superman ever have children? Since, he is an alien they probably couldn't have a child.

I suspect for them to safely have sex he would have to have some krypotnite nearby to sap some of his strength just in case.

There's an essay on the subject by Larry Niven: "Man Of Steel, Woman Of Kleenex". He's on about the silver age version (the thing being written in the early '70s) but seems comvinced that they've never had sex, largely because Lois is still alive.

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"Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" HA!

The real best Superman story ever!:

 

http://www.superdickery.com/seduction/75.html

I love this warped version of Clarks boss. IS he a village person, biker, sadomasochist or Judas Priest fan?

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I always have this sense superman is just trying to imitate human behavior going through the motions and sex is really not concern for him.

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"I always have this sense superman is just trying to imitate human behavior going through the motions and sex is really not concern for him."

 

I think you're right.

Kryptonians were shown to be cold, emotionless beings in "Starman" and other mini-series I've read.

Plus, he's the last of a dying race who were humanoid, but not humans, so he might not even feel sexually compatible with humans.

And, Ma & Pa Kent seemed harmlessy androgynous in their relationship.

So, with Clark's simplistic behavious, I'm guessing he really doesn't care about sex either.

 

But, I can tell you, that ain't the case with Lois! She's not gonna put up with that shit for long now that they're married!

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Dogpoet mentioned "Man of Steel Women of Kleenex," the article concurs with our accessment.

Larry Niven notes," What arouses Kal-El's mating urge? Did kryptonian women carry some subtle mating cue at appropriate times of the year? Whatever it is, Lois Lane probably didn't have it. We may speculate that she smells wrong, less like a kryptonian woman than like a terrestrial monkey. A mating between Superman and Lois Lane would feel like sodomy-and would be, of course, by church and common law."

 

Here are the solutions for Superman and Louis Lane for having a child.

"Is there a solution?

 

There are several. Each has drawbacks.

 

We can make LL wear a kryptonite (*For our purposes, all forms of kryptonite are available in unlimited quantities. It has been estimated, from the startling tonnage of kryptonite fallen to Earth since the explosion of Krypton, that the planet must have outweighed our entire solar system. Doubtless the "planet" Krypton was a cooling black dwarf star, one of a binary pair, the other member being a red giant.*) belt around her waist. But too little kryptonite may allow the child to damage her, while too much may damage or kill the child. Intermediate amounts may do both! And there is no safe way to experiment.

 

A better solution is to find a host-mother.

 

We have not yet considered the existence of a Supergirl. (*She can't mate with Superman because she's his first cousin. And only a cad would suggest differently.*) She could carry the child without harm. But Supergirl has a secret identity, and her secret identity is no more married than Supergirl herself. If she turned up pregnant, she would probably be thrown out of school.

 

A better solution may be to implant the growing foetus in Superman himself. There are places in a man's abdomen where a foetus could draw adequate nourishment, growing as a parasite, and where it would not cause undue harm to surrounding organs. Presumably Clark Kent can take a leave of absence more easily than Supergirl's schoolgirl alter ego.

 

When the time comes, the child would be removed by Caesarian section. It would have to be removed early, but there would be no problem with incubators as long as it was fed. I leave the problem of cutting through Superman's invulnerable skin as an exercise for the alert reader.

 

The mind boggles at the image of a pregnant Superman cruising the skies of Metropolis. Batman would refuse to be seen with him; strange new jokes would circulate the prisons...and the race of Krypton would be safe at last. "

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Agent 355 in Y, the Last Man.

 

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Has a steamy romance with...

 

Allison, the biochemist, also a lesbian.

 

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Fascinatingly...well, gay in a post apocalyptic, woman rage ruled world with...one guy left...and his pet monkey, also a dude. Got wood?

They're gay? Maybe I should have read more than just the third TBP.

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Well, they cop off with each other and grope a bit in the 6th book. Does it actually go any further than that later on, Spider?

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Dogpoet mentioned "Man of Steel Women of Kleenex," the article concurs with our accessment.

Larry Niven notes," What arouses Kal-El's mating urge? Did kryptonian women carry some subtle mating cue at appropriate times of the year? Whatever it is, Lois Lane probably didn't have it. We may speculate that she smells wrong, less like a kryptonian woman than like a terrestrial monkey. A mating between Superman and Lois Lane would feel like sodomy-and would be, of course, by church and common law."

 

Here are the solutions for Superman and Louis Lane for having a child.

"Is there a solution?

 

There are several. Each has drawbacks.

 

We can make LL wear a kryptonite (*For our purposes, all forms of kryptonite are available in unlimited quantities. It has been estimated, from the startling tonnage of kryptonite fallen to Earth since the explosion of Krypton, that the planet must have outweighed our entire solar system. Doubtless the "planet" Krypton was a cooling black dwarf star, one of a binary pair, the other member being a red giant.*) belt around her waist. But too little kryptonite may allow the child to damage her, while too much may damage or kill the child. Intermediate amounts may do both! And there is no safe way to experiment.

 

A better solution is to find a host-mother.

 

We have not yet considered the existence of a Supergirl. (*She can't mate with Superman because she's his first cousin. And only a cad would suggest differently.*) She could carry the child without harm. But Supergirl has a secret identity, and her secret identity is no more married than Supergirl herself. If she turned up pregnant, she would probably be thrown out of school.

 

A better solution may be to implant the growing foetus in Superman himself. There are places in a man's abdomen where a foetus could draw adequate nourishment, growing as a parasite, and where it would not cause undue harm to surrounding organs. Presumably Clark Kent can take a leave of absence more easily than Supergirl's schoolgirl alter ego.

 

When the time comes, the child would be removed by Caesarian section. It would have to be removed early, but there would be no problem with incubators as long as it was fed. I leave the problem of cutting through Superman's invulnerable skin as an exercise for the alert reader.

 

The mind boggles at the image of a pregnant Superman cruising the skies of Metropolis. Batman would refuse to be seen with him; strange new jokes would circulate the prisons...and the race of Krypton would be safe at last. "

Just got word from DC, you've got the job as the new Superman writer!!!

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Agent 355 in Y, the Last Man.

 

y_%20004.jpg

 

Has a steamy romance with...

 

Allison, the biochemist, also a lesbian.

 

y_%20005.jpg

 

Fascinatingly...well, gay in a post apocalyptic, woman rage ruled world with...one guy left...and his pet monkey, also a dude. Got wood?

They're gay? Maybe I should have read more than just the third TBP.

Worse, yet Alison is a cheating lesbian.

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How so? 355 considered her thing with Dr. Allison to be a quick fling. While Allison does, 355 most definitely does not self-identify as a lesbian. (I keep wondering if she's done anything with Yorick in earlier issues, or if she will in future ones.)

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I really hadn't realized the full scope the dialogue for the possible Bruce banner rape scene. The text was blurry and illegible initially and I missed some of the choice tid-bits. So, what happened between the point the guy lifts up his shirt and bruce banner on the wall? It is almost implied something had happened besides the verbal attack. Please note the two middle panels on the bottom were changed to mimic a man-thinging unleashed on mick.

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How so?  355 considered her thing with Dr. Allison to be a quick fling.  While Allison does, 355 most definitely does not self-identify as a lesbian.  (I keep wondering if she's done anything with Yorick in earlier issues, or if she will in future ones.)

Stop ruining it for me. :sad:

 

:)

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Straight (and Not) Out of the Comics

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By GEORGE GENE GUSTINES

Published: May 28, 2006

X-RAY vision. Teleportation. Shape-shifting. Flight. The special abilities of superheroes are certainly diverse. But historically the faces behind the masks have been much less so. Out of costume the biggest difference was black hair or blond. Green skin was more common than any shade of brown. And on the rare occasion when nonwhite heroes were included, names like Black Panther and Black Lightning telegraphed the difference.

 

 

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Batwoman was introduced by DC Comics in 1956. In her new incarnation she's a lesbian socialite when not fighting crime. More Photos »

 

 

 

Slide Show: The Great 10 But this year will be a banner one for diversity in the $500 million comic book business. At DC Comics, an effort is under way to introduce heroes who are not cut from the usual straight white male supercloth. A mix of new concepts, dusted-off code names and existing characters, the new heroes include Blue Beetle, a Mexican teenager powered by a mystical scarab; Batwoman, a lesbian socialite by night and a crime fighter by later in the night; and the Great Ten, a government-sponsored Chinese team.

 

Over at Marvel Comics, Black Panther, king of the fictional African nation of Wakanda, will soon marry Storm, the weather-controlling mutant and X-Man. Luke Cage, a strong-as-steel black street fighter who married his white girlfriend in April, plays a key role in "New Avengers," the company's best-selling book.

 

Comic books have featured minorities before, but the latest push is intended to be a sustained one, taking place in an alternate world that nevertheless reflects American society in general and comics readers in particular, in much the same way that the multicultural casts of television shows like ABC's "Lost" and "Grey's Anatomy" mirror their audiences. "I'm glad we're at the point when they're being rolled out without flourish — not 'Minority Heroes Attack!,' " said Judd Winick, who has written many comics for both Marvel and DC. "It's important just to see them as characters and not a story line about race."

 

Credit is due in part to diversity behind the scenes. Reginald Hudlin, Black Entertainment Television's president for entertainment, is writing the Black Panther series. Joe Quesada is editor in chief at Marvel, the first Hispanic to have that job.

 

"I do look at the universe with a different set of eyes," Mr. Quesada said, "but I don't let race enter or interfere with the story. There's nothing worse than thinking, 'We need three more black characters in the Marvel universe.' "

 

In the DC universe, many of the heroes are closely tied to "52," an ambitious, yearlong series, published weekly, that began this month. With the established heroes Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman mainly offstage trying to find themselves after a strained alliance in "Infinite Crisis," the events of "52" force the new heroes into bigger roles.

 

"We're trying a lot at the same time," said Dan DiDio, DC's vice president and executive editor, "but we don't know how it's going to be accepted."

 

The concern is understandable given DC's uneven history with introducing minority characters en masse. In 1988 it published "The New Guardians," about a super-powered team that included an aboriginal girl, an Eskimo man and Extrano, an H.I.V.-positive gay man who wanted to be called Auntie, who was dismissed online by a fan as a "limp-wristed caricature."

 

In 1993 DC printed and distributed the work of Milestone Media, an African-American-owned company specializing in comics with black, Asian, Hispanic and gay heroes. Some of the titles ran for nearly four years, but all ceased publication during a volatile time in the comic industry. One character, a black teenager with electrical powers, found greater success in the animated series "Static Shock."

 

In 2000 another batch of international heroes — from Turkey, India, Japan, Argentina and elsewhere — were introduced under the "Planet DC" banner. These champions of justice have had few adventures since.

 

This time around the writers and editors are taking pains to avoid that fate. Mindful that readers can be especially resistant to new faces, the creators are carefully orchestrating introductions and linking unfamiliar characters to "legacy" heroes.

 

The previous Blue Beetle, who was white, was murdered last year in a hot-selling story that paved the way for the new Blue Beetle, a k a Jaime Reyes, a Mexican-American teenager in El Paso. Fans of the old Blue Beetle posted online messages decrying his death and griping about DC's new, generally more somber direction. But comics devotees are notorious for buying titles out of loyalty, whether from completist compulsion or from a need to be able to complain about what they don't like, and DC knows it. "It's hard to introduce any new hero," Mr. DiDio admitted. But, he said, if using familiar names "gives us a leg up so they're more readily accepted, I think that's the way to go."

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Published: May 28, 2006

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In March, Jaime was spun off into his own book, which is as much about him coming to terms with his powers and the mystical scarab as it is about his working-class family and high school life. The first issue sold an estimated 50,000 copies and was reprinted to meet demand. Online reviews were generally positive, but fan reaction was typically mixed. "The guy is Mexican?" a reader wrote online, adding, "Sure can't tell by the costume." Another responded, "Would you have preferred a big blue sombrero?"

 

 

Slide Show: The Great 10 Another effort to link old and new characters centers on Kathy Kane, the gay Batwoman who will appear in costume for the first time in a July issue of "52." Batwoman was introduced in 1956, but she was one of several, often silly additions to the Bat family, including Ace the Bat-Hound (1955), Bat-Mite (1959) and Bat-Girl (1961). In her latest incarnation, Batwoman is a wealthy, buxom lipstick lesbian who has a history with Renee Montoya, an ex-police detective who has a starring role in "52."

 

Even so, it's something of a surprise that there are any gay characters hanging out in Gotham City. Last year DC issued a cease-and-desist letter to a New York art gallery for displaying watercolors by Mark Chamberlain that depicted Batman and Robin in intimate positions. "That's not what this is about," Mr. DiDio said. "We're basically showing a different cross section of the world."

 

The Chinese government-controlled Great Ten, making their debut next month, should prove less contentious. The team includes the Celestial Archer, with ties to Chinese mythology; Mother of Champions, who can give birth to a litter of 25 super-soldiers about every three days; and Seven Deadly Brothers, a martial arts expert who can divide into many.

 

If anyone is sympathetic to DC's struggles with new characters, it is Marvel, its rival. Mr. Quesada recalls the 2004 debut of Araña, a Hispanic girl with Spider-Man-like powers. She made a big splash and quickly received her own series in 2005, but it lasted only a year.

 

The company has had more success with two black characters who have been around for a few decades: Black Panther, created in 1966, and Storm, from 1975. Their marriage, in July, is the work of Mr. Hudlin. He started a new Black Panther series last year; one story line sent the title character and Luke Cage to post-Hurricane Katrina New Orleans to help in the cleanup. (Fittingly, Mr. Hudlin, who is also a film director, described the teaming of an ex-cop and African king as a "a buddy action movie.")

 

"The reality is that there's been so few black characters who have their own book, who have been consistently published," Mr. Hudlin said, "let alone a black character who has been written by a black writer and the perspective that comes from that."

 

He added: "I'm not saying you have to be black to understand the character, but very often the best writer may be the writer who best understands the culture of the character."

 

Fans have debated whether the new Black Panther title succeeds — "We all like the character, why can't we disagree on the writing?" blkyoda wrote on hudlinentertainment.com — but Mr. Hudlin proudly spoke of a man who reads the series to his son, two pages a day.

 

Mr. Winick, the comics writer who is perhaps still best known as a cast member of MTV's 1994 "Real World," also emphasizes diversity in his work. He introduced a Japanese lesbian superhero during his tenure (2001 to 2003 ) on "Exiles," a Marvel comic about mutants saving alternate realities from destruction. "Outsiders," which he currently writes for DC, has a multiethnic cast that includes Grace, a rowdy Chinese-American powerhouse, and Thunder, the daughter of Black Lightning. Mr. Winick even had Green Arrow, as the mayor of Star City, legalize gay marriage.

 

"It's nice when a young reader can gravitate toward a character and feel represented," he said. Mr. Winick, who is white, said that wasn't always the case, citing the experience of his wife (and "Real World" cast mate) Pam Ling, a Chinese-American who, with her sisters, used to watch "Wonder Woman" because of her dark hair. "That's as close as she was going to get" to a sense of kinship, he said.

 

"When I get gripes for my need to force my social agenda into comics, I always ask: which social agenda are you complaining about? Is it the gay people? Or the black people or the Asian people?

 

"After a while, it doesn't look like a social agenda. This is the world we live in."

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There's a serious problem with the Black Panther/Storm wedding.

The guy who writes for theXAxis.com web-site wrote a wonderful essay on the subject.

Frankly, I found it insulting.

There was a hint in a short back-up strip from "Marvel Tales" back in the very early 80s that Storm and Panther might have had a romantic relationship at one point in their lives. Largely forgettable, probably about 7 pages total. Nothing was ever seriously made of it.

It wasn't until 1999, in Christopher Priest' "Black Panther" run that the two characters ever met up again.

Now, all of a sudden, we're meant to expect that Storm and Black Panther are in love and getting married.

The only real reason Marvel seems to have that they should be in love and getting married right now is that both are Africans. Storm is Kenyan by birth, Black Panther is from (the made up nation) Wakanda.

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There's a serious problem with the Black Panther/Storm wedding.

The guy who writes for theXAxis.com web-site wrote a wonderful essay on the subject.

Frankly, I found it insulting.

There was a hint in a short back-up strip from "Marvel Tales" back in the very early 80s that Storm and Panther might have had a romantic relationship at one point in their lives. Largely forgettable, probably about 7 pages total. Nothing was ever seriously made of it.

It wasn't until 1999, in Christopher Priest' "Black Panther" run that the two characters ever met up again.

Now, all of a sudden, we're meant to expect that Storm and Black Panther are in love and getting married.

The only real reason Marvel seems to have that they should be in love and getting married right now is that both are Africans. Storm is Kenyan by birth, Black Panther is from (the made up nation) Wakanda.

 

Hudlin is just a bad writer. It was hinted at that they were each others first loves. BUT, that was like what? 10-15 years ago.. So really they'v had time to get over each other and pretty much grow up. Well up until Hudlin came along and was like "I'm going to erase decades of history on the Black panther and just make him a jive talking playa. Because he DOES rule Wakanda! :lol: "

 

Another thing is this. Hudlin thinks he's a good writer for the character. Because He is black and guess what? So is T'challa. Forget the fact that Wakanda is a made up nation and that T'challa is a king. :icon_rolleyes: Any good writer who does enough research could write the character right.

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There's a serious problem with the Black Panther/Storm wedding.

The guy who writes for theXAxis.com web-site wrote a wonderful essay on the subject.

Frankly, I found it insulting.

There was a hint in a short back-up strip from "Marvel Tales" back in the very early 80s that Storm and Panther might have had a romantic relationship at one point in their lives. Largely forgettable, probably about 7 pages total. Nothing was ever seriously made of it.

It wasn't until 1999, in Christopher Priest' "Black Panther" run that the two characters ever met up again.

Now, all of a sudden, we're meant to expect that Storm and Black Panther are in love and getting married.

The only real reason Marvel seems to have that they should be in love and getting married right now is that both are Africans. Storm is Kenyan by birth, Black Panther is from (the made up nation) Wakanda.

The gospel of the Earth X trilogy had that they were married first I believe.

But the series had the benefit of the in-the-not-distant-future-safety net.

If it's written well, I don't mind.

 

Tangentally, i've been meaning to pick up Priest's Black Panther run, I really liked his cancelled The Crew.

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Test-Christopher Priest's "Black Panther" is great fun and one of the best Marvel titles to come out during that period. Well worth hunting down and a damn loss that Marvel never bothered to Trade the series.

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