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PREACHER: The HBO Series..?

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  I don't know good this information is, but I was at a comic convention in Dublin recently where Glenn Fabry was signing. I asked about the Preacher movie and he said that it wouldn't go ahead, that nobody wanted to do it. He then told me that days previous he had gotten a call from somebody from HBO looking for Garth Ennis' phone number. A few hours later he got a call from Garth saying that the producers from The Sopranos want to turn Preacher into a HBO TV series. There was no word on Garth's response to this. If you use this, call me BOMB 2.0.

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Holy shit I might have to start watching TV if this happens. Oh wait, BitTorrent. Ok I'm good.

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I wouldn't hold my breath for this. I doubt the HBO excutives will believe that a Preacher series will attract the same cross section of the male and female audience that the Sopranos or Six Feet Under did.

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I doubt the HBO excutives will believe that a  Preacher series will attract the same cross section of the male and female audience that the Sopranos or Six Feet Under did.

 

To be fair, that'd be because it probably won't.

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To be fair, I imagine they wouldn't want to target that cross section with it anyway. They certainly didn't with Deadwood, say, or Curb Your Enthusiasm, or Sex and the City.

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To be fair, I imagine they wouldn't want to target that cross section with it anyway. They certainly didn't with Deadwood, say, or Curb Your Enthusiasm, or Sex and the City.

 

Yes but each of those shows had more broad appeal than a faithful Preacher series would have. Young Males who like comic books IS a good market but I'm not sure if it's one which would warrant HBO putting a shit load of money in a series that would probably need to run for five seasons to tell the complete story.

 

I could be wrong but I'm thinking this will never get off the ground.

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This would kick more ass than I am able to conceive of; but I doubt it'll happen.

 

Probably some hack'll rewrite the whole story in prose form in a hundred years (cribbing from a tattered copy of Gone To Texas in a nuked-out library) and then some money-grubbing fuck'll make a movie of that. Mark my words.

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Bob Wayne said at Bristol that there was nothing planned as far a Preacher film/tv thing goes, course things change quickly in this business.

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Well this is only supposed to have happened recently, isn't it? Besides which, Ennis (being the owner of the work) probably wouldn't have to notify DC until HBO made a formal proposal, since DC have a first refusal clause in their contracts.

 

Yes but each of those shows had more broad appeal than a faithful Preacher series would have.  Young Males who like comic books IS a good market but I'm not sure if it's one which would warrant HBO putting a shit load of money in a series that would probably need to run for five seasons to tell the complete story.

 

There's nothing saying that they have to include everything from the series. War in the Sun would be far too expensive for a start, as would the Masada bit in Crusaders. And nobody wants Salvation put up onscreen in its entirety. On the other hand All in the Family (for my money Preacher's best story in pretty much every single way) would be perfect, since it's largely based around a single location and has a very limited cast.

 

Besides which, an entire issue of Preacher would probably cover all of twenty minutes of screen time, if you're being generous. And with only 25-ish individual story arcs, they'd probably have to add a lot more plot strands for the TV version.

 

I could see HBO taking the weird shit/road movie structure and making a couple of really good 13-episode seasons with a proper conclusion and everything.

 

And I'm not sure that Deadwood or Sex and the City would have a substantially broader appeal than Preacher, only that they would appeal to different demographics. Done properly, Preacher could really grab the 20-35 male demographic, which is the one that makes advertisers shit themselves, because they have the biggest disposeable income. Also, legions of comic book reading viewers would be desireable because they're perceived as having lots of disposeable income too (ie: no social life, no girlfriend etc.), which is why we're starting to see more car ads and lifestyle product advertisements appearing in comic books.

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Also, legions of comic book reading viewers would be desireable because they're perceived as having lots of disposeable income too (ie: no social life, no girlfriend etc.)

 

Mind you, there are (based on current sales figures of Western-style comics) only about 4-500,000 of us, tops. So, you can see why TV and movie execs don't always take the opinions of comic fans particularly seriously.

 

Otherwise, I think I agree with everything in your post.

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all that demographic stuff aside, were missing a big big stumbling point:

 

it's about a Preacher who has magic powers because he is possesed by the offspring of a demon and an angel, who decides to track down God while being hunted by an all powerful bible cult, at the end God gets killed.

 

in the current conservative christian american climate? i dont think so,

 

look what happened to the book of Daniel http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470642/ cancelled after four epiosodes, not because it was bad or pulling low figures but because the Christian Conservatives bitched about it. or the fuss about the Davinci Code movie, just because its HBO doesnt exempt it from fundementalist pressure.

 

anything that shows Christianity in a negative light is going to be black balled while the republicans run america.

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Even if they were to do it, I think there isn't much of a possibility it's going to work.

 

Also, HBO+DC=inbreeding again.

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Nothing. Just that both companies are owned by Time Warner, which might explain this:

Well this is only supposed to have happened recently, isn't it? Besides which, Ennis (being the owner of the work) probably wouldn't have to notify DC until HBO made a formal proposal, since DC have a first refusal clause in their contracts.

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That's not inbreeding, that's copyright law in action. Time Warner own DC, so they own the intellectual property produced by/for DC, so they get to make film/TV versions of those characters. That's just the way it works.

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all that demographic stuff aside, were missing a big big stumbling point:

 

it's about a Preacher who has magic powers because he is possesed by the offspring of a demon and an angel, who decides to track down God while being hunted by an all powerful bible cult, at the end God gets killed. 

 

in the current conservative christian american climate? i dont think so,

Kejoxen, I think you've just made the most important point in this discussion.

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That's not inbreeding, that's copyright law in action. Time Warner own DC, so they own the intellectual property produced by/for DC, so they get to make film/TV versions of those characters. That's just the way it works.

 

Except that Preacher is creator-owned, so Ennis and Dillon own it. All DC have is an option of first refusal on any movies, TV series etc.

 

And I just remembered that HBO is entirely funded by subscribers, not advertisers, so the demographic stuff I mentioned above is pointless. However...

 

look what happened to the book of Daniel http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0470642/ cancelled after four epiosodes, not because it was bad or pulling low figures but because the Christian Conservatives bitched about it. or the fuss about the Davinci Code movie, just because its HBO doesnt exempt it from fundementalist pressure.

 

anything that shows Christianity in a negative light is going to be black balled while the republicans run america.

 

It was pulled by the network, NBC, who were afraid of losing advertising and viewers from the big bible belt viewing block. HBO, whose shows are full of sex and violence, don't have to worry about this factor at all since no self-respecting fundamentalist Christian is going to pay to watch people sin left, right and centre. It's simply not a factor.

 

And since there's no advertising, there's no worry about advertisers pulling their ads due to conservative pressure.

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I think its a tad naieve to believe that the Christians will steer clear of a show just because its on cable, HBO is a very high profile station. The Sopranos and Deadwood both came under fire for thier sexual and violent content.

 

nowhere is safe from the fundemetalist right, there all over the pay pornography sites on the internet, trying to pass laws to make it harder to find pics of boobs.

 

while HBO may have been a safe haven in the past there really is nothing much protecting it anymore.

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I think its a tad naieve to believe that the Christians will steer clear of a show just because its on cable, HBO is a very high profile station. The Sopranos and Deadwood both came under fire for thier sexual and violent content.

 

No, my point is that HBO have absolutely no reason to capitulate - they're beholden to the people who pay their subscriptions, not advertisers, so pressure from the far right - none of whom would actually have HBO subscriptions anyway - won't do a thing.

 

The fact that The Sopranos and Deadwood didn't tone down their content suggests that all the fire they took was for nothing (and The Sopranos even took the piss out of the Italian Defamation League or whoever they were in one episode).

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