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Qusoor    69
, "possibly after older John offers up his soul in exchange for releasing the coma patients "

Wait! John sells his soul, AGAIN, in this GN?! How many times can one man sell his damned soul?!

No, it's really just a second (or is that third?) mortguage. Even Hell has to keep throwing new twists on the old game.

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Guest The Wizard   
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OK, here's a question for the boffins.

 

Since I'm reading through HB in TPB form, there are some new characters in Ennis' run, and I don't know who the hell they are. I can pretty much work out the deal with most of them, but who the heck is the big bearded guy who looks like a norse god or some such, the one who organises JC's party in Forty?

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James    38

That's The Lord of the Dance, a pagan god of merriment whom John met one strange Christmas in issue 49 (one of the uncollected Ennis issues).

 

The Lord of the Dance had been down ever since the Christians converted his people, so John took him to a pub celebrating Christmas where he met up with Chas and his mates and they all got drunk. Pleased to learn that the modern world still has enough of a soul to party, the Lord returned to his former glory and promised John he'd keep an eye on him.

 

The only other characters that were introduced prior to that issue are Zatanna (regular DC character for years, now; a talented magician), Kit (introduced in Dangerous Habits), Ellie (a succcubus, also seen in DH) and Nigel (scrawny psychic Socialist with a ponytail who helped John trap a serial killing demon in the uncollected "Royal Blood" arc).

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Guest The Wizard   
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Ah, cheers. I can now continue reading with a minimum of bewilderment. Damn DC and their reluctance to collect all of Hellblazer!

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sethos    5
The only other characters that were introduced prior to that issue are Zatanna (regular DC character for years, now; a talented magician), Kit (introduced in Dangerous Habits), Ellie (a succcubus, also seen in DH) and Nigel (scrawny psychic Socialist with a ponytail who helped John trap a serial killing demon in the uncollected "Royal Blood" arc).

 

I still don't understand why they never collected Royal Blood (together with HB #50, which is a pretty necessary issue to fully get the later King of the Vampires storyline)

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James    38

Because the success of Preacher meant that they went straight to the point at which Dillon became the regular artist.

 

Only two Hellblazer books had been released before Fear and Loathing, and they both tanked.

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Help me out here. Okay this blood transfusion thing right. In Dangerous Habits The First "rebuilds" Johns body right. The blood has helped John in the Past. So my question is I am sure the First noticed the blood thus why didnt he reconstruct Johns body sans uber-blood?

 

Seperate Question In Careys HIGH ON LIFE Angie got a dose of Nergal's blood. What does this mean for now? And will Rosacarnis sense this aswell?

 

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James    38

John McMahon reckons that Constantine shouldn't have kept the demon blood as well. I just don't think about it. Maybe he figured that it would help keep John alive whilst he figured out how to break the deadlock(and it did - remember the King of the Vampires).

 

I guess Angie's as tainted as John, though she probably got a more watered-down dose.

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Thanks James. There's another problem festering in the brain, The First of the Fallen. Now if he is the first then SANDMAN has LUCIFER right. Now my question is is the first THE DEVIL or A devil. Who is the true king of hell LUCIFER or the First?

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James    38

Oh man, not this one!

 

As explained in Rake at the Gates of Hell, The First is God's excised conscience, removed at the very Beginning, before his first Creation. He was booted out of Eden when he realised that God was apeshit insane.

 

Lucifer is an angel (and along with Michael, the joint most powerful) who was cast out from the grace of God for being a bit uppity*. The First was already there when Lucifer fell.

 

The First is the King of Hell because he actively wants to take up the mantle. Lucifer just let Hell accumulate around him and took up the role until he decided that he should stop doing God's bidding. At which point he buggered off to Australia for a bit.

 

Some have pointed out that the First is the Jewish Devil, the Adversary who serves God's will by testing the faithful (the Christians sort of mixed him up with Lucifer, who is a fallen angel). The First is Satan, the serpent in the garden and the active opposer of God's kingdom. Lucifer is himself, a bored and dangerous angel.

 

Lucifer's also a lot funnier (though he's become less dryly witty as the series has progressed - reasonable, given the stresses he's been under).

 

 

 

 

 

*Understatement.

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Thanks for clearing that up, James.

 

Fucking Hell. My head hurts a bit. His God's conscience.

 

You think Carey's gonna bring back the first after this ROSACARNIS issue?

One Final question just how old is Uncle Conjob? What 50 or so? Then why do they draw him like his in his late thirties?

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James    38

He should be 51, though the current Hellblazer timeline seems to be about six months behind. Ade knows more than me on this count.

 

SPOILERS FOR ORIGINAL SINS, DANGEROUS HABITS, CRITICAL MASS AND DIFFICULT BEGINNINGS

 

 

 

 

 

 

OS

The demon blood repaired his body completely, so it's not too much of a stretch to say that it might have kept him looking young even if it couldn't fight off the cancer.

 

DH

He then had his body rebuilt in Dangerous Habits, so he got a fresh start then, with new skin bones and everything (why The First didn't take this opportunity to give John a pair of tits or fifteen arseholes or something I'll never know).

 

CM

Of course, he pissed it all up against the wall when he hit the streets in the middle of Ennis' run, and developed an on-off alcohol dependency. Jenkins sorted this in Critical Mass by having John excise all the addictions, pain, love for Kit etc. from his body then place it into a golem creature animated by the Demon Blood. We can also assume that he got rid of any free radicals, toxins and shit that would have aged him further.

 

DB

Finally, in Difficult Beginnings John regained his taint by sleeping with Ellie. Presumably this had much the same effect as his first infusion, clearing any physical problems out of his system.

 

So he's had four physical "resets" within the space of about nine years. Granted, he's had a further five or so years to age, but he should only be looking about fortyish at the worst.

 

Or possibly only us fans have really bothered to consider his age. Who knows?

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Donnie Van    0

I've got one. And I know answers will vary, but let's give it a try ...

 

How many kids does John have? Aside from Saul and Co.

Biologically speaking, there's Tefe. I read somewhere (and I swear I thought it was here, pre-Millarworld forums) that Zed was knocked up from one of their little encounters, but I've never read any in-comic bits to support that.

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James    38

In The Fear Machine, John, Zed and Marj had a weird serpentine threesome that resulted in the (re)birth of a dragon-shaped female force created to balance the destructive male urge of Jallakuntilliokan, but I don't think he should worry about paying paternety cheques for that one any time soon.

 

So, thinking of blood relatives....

 

1- Tefe.

2- Possibly impregnated the lesbian in Gaiman's "Hold Me."

3- The child in Bad Blood (probably an Elseworlds, or "non-continuity" story)

4- The Demon Constantine, sort of.

5- Marie, Saul and Adam.

 

I'm sure there's another that I can't think of...

 

Though not a blood relative, Tim Hunter was sort of a child figure to Constanine, though not an incredibly close one.

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Donnie Van    0

Very interesting.

 

Alright, so a question about Tefe, then: Is she still biologically related to John? I only have a handful of v.3's issues (and don't like them enough to warrant tracking down the rest), but from what I've gathered, John and Alec managed to somehow wipe Tefe's memory and then infest her spirit into the corpse of Mary Conway.

Wouldn't that sever the Constantine connection?

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andy    2
2- Possibly impregnated the lesbian in Gaiman's "Hold Me."

 

I don't think he actually had sexual intercourse with the lesbian in that particular issue. But I could be wrong as a future writer might go back and create a new problem for Constantine.

 

As for Tefe. Who knows at this point with all the nonesense that's gone on in that title since Veitch had John act as her surrogate father. Tefe was originally supposed to be a mix of elemental (Swampy), human (Abby), and demonic (Constantine's demon blood) but nothing was ever really made of this potential combination.

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Christian    805

No, I think you are right Andy. If I remember correctly, John was all hot and bothered and ready to go, but he found out why the woman wanted him so badly before he ever went to bed.

Although, he DID shag a lesbian in Ennis' "Son of Man" story-arc! :lol:

 

Well, that's very confusing stuff about Tefe's body swap Donnie. Mary has the mind and conscience of Tefe, but Tefe's mind and conscience is in Mary's body. This is some kind of fucked up metaphysics that I really don't want to bother thinking about!!! :biggrin:

 

As far as Tefe being part angelic, part demonic, and part human-The demon blood ended up fucking up Tefe, which is why the whole body-switch thing had to take place. It was all a trick on the part of the Parliaments.

My memory's fuzzy about what all went on.....

 

James, I'm pretty sure "Bad Blood" is one of those pseudo-future stories that the comic book world is so fond of. Where, "THIS COULD BE A POSSIBLE FUTURE, but NOTHING IS SET IN STONE"!

And, I'm pretty sure it's not going to come to pass, because as even Jamie Delano admitted, the story was already dated when it was published, because the whole "cult of Princess Diana" thing faded out rather quickly, which Delano did not foresee at all!

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James    38

At the end of issue 27, John returns to the lesbian lady and asks her to hold him. Whilst it doesn't seem sexual (and there is a girl in there whose mother has just died), he might've got a sympathy shag out of it.

 

Ellis thought that the Diana fad would last longer as well - there's a comment on it in The New Scum, which is pretty imprtant given that people in the future don't even remember who Robert Kennedy was.

 

No, I think you are right Andy. If I remember correctly, John was all hot and bothered and ready to go, but he found out why the woman wanted him so badly before he ever went to bed.

Although, he DID shag a lesbian in Ennis' "Son of Man" story-arc! :lol:

 

Of course, the second time around he was the one doing the manipulating. I guess that's a turn-on for him, whilst finding out that he's been played really pisses him off.

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Qusoor    69

Whether Tefe is physically related to Constantine anymore is questionable. In the first run of Swamp Thing, she basically discorporated herself and reassembled her body the way Swamp Thing does. So she's basically made of whatever was available. So I'd say she isn't technically related to Constantine anymore.

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Christian    805

Well, regardless of John at the S&M club during Azzarello's run, we've seen that John usually like to be dominant in a relationship. So, I'd say that almost being tricked into having sex with a woman who wasn't really attracted to him would piss him off! All this, even though he really craves a more dominant woman he can respect, as shown with Kit; but yet, he also has a hard time reconciling to that fact with his dominant personality.

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Donnie Van    0

Alright, I've got another one.

 

Can someone give me an in-depth history of John's soul, and all the times he's done something to it? It just occured to me while reading through some of Jenkins' run that his soul seems to get played around with quite a bit.

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James    38

He sold it three times in Dangerous Habits but won it back in issue 61 by foiling The First three times. Then chopped it into bits and put the bad parts in the Demon Constantine, then he had sex with Ellie to regain the taint. Finally, he sold exclusive rights to The First at the end of Jenkins' run.

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