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William Gibson's script for Aliens 3 is going to be adapted in to comic form and published by Dark Horse.

Personally, I'm glad we got the version of Aliens 3 we did, instead of the Gibson plot. I am a fan of Aliens 3, and rank it the second best of the entire Aliens franchise, after the original (I'm not sure if I'm counting Prometheus or not, because I'm still frankly not sure how much I love Prometheus, if that makes any sense). I don't understand why a lot of people don't enjoy Aliens 3, as it works very well. It was a dark and claustrophobic movie. I've noticed that there are quite a number of fans who love Aliens 3 too, so I guess the hatred of it is overblown.

It's funny that science fiction writers are expected to be predicting the future, yet I don't think one science fiction writer was able to predict that the USSR would no longer exist in the future. Not that I give the "science fiction writers are trying to predict the future" idea a lot of merit. Most of them are really writing about the present, with an occasional very prescient look at how the future of society will take shape.

Yet, it's especially funny that Gibson wrote his script based around explaining what happened to the "Eastern bloc" countries as his Aliens 3 premise during the late-1980s. It wouldn't be very long after that point when the USSR collapsed.

Looking back, it looks a lot better for the Alien franchise that they didn't end up having one of their movies being an outdated "Cold War" narrative. The franchise looks a lot more farseeing. Plus, the Aliens 3 we got served as a fitting ending for Ripley*, which is what the trilogy should have revolved around, whereby Gibson's script wouldn't have given us a finale for Ripley's story.

*Yes, I realize what Aliens Resurrection foisted upon the world. That was just plain a horrible movie, and why most people think of it as the "Aliens trilogy".

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On 10/6/2018 at 5:06 AM, dogpoet said:

Barbed wire is an immediate image, and using it as a metaphor for illegal enclosure rather than a tattoo showing that somebody's up for a spanking session (which seems a lot more usual) is a very clever touch.

It goes even further than that, if you buy into this very deep take: https://www.thecomicregime.com/comicnews/graphic-encounters-7  It's a literary essay on that first issue of The Lone Ranger.

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Thanks, Jason. Bit more deconstructionist a reading than I'd have expected for a political metaphor in a western comic. Haven't read the comic, but Rodinelli's intepretation of the wire as a web with the bad guy sitting at its centre like a spider and his gunsels spiritually if not physically spawning from it is nicely argued.

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Read the first two Scarlet trades, Brian Bendis and Alex Maleev working through their Brian Wood phase.  It's super dumb and overly simplistic but I quite enjoyed it!

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Jason-The entire planet? Is he going to do a better job than what we've seen so far? He can't do much worse though, eh?

I was thinking that with Marvel getting the rights back to Conan that they wouldn't have the rights to using Red Sonja material. I wonder how that works with the reprints of the old Marvel material? Not that I care much at all, since I own all the original comics. Will they have to skip issues of the original Marvel comics, since they don't have the rights to Red Sonja though?

I also hope Mark Russell isn't taking on too many new comics, which is going to hurt his creativity. He was used to writing one book at a time, and putting all of his energy in to that series....Flintstones, Snaggelpuss.

Now, he's gotten more popular, and it seems he's going to be writing about six different comics at once in 2019.

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^ https://www.selfmadehero.com/books/lip-hook

English rural horror? Sold! Thanks for the heads-up, Ade.

 

16 hours ago, Christian said:

I also hope Mark Russell isn't taking on too many new comics, which is going to hurt his creativity. He was used to writing one book at a time, and putting all of his energy in to that series....Flintstones, Snaggelpuss.

Now, he's gotten more popular, and it seems he's going to be writing about six different comics at once in 2019.

I do hope he can maintain the staggering quality he's produced so far. He seems like a no-brainer to take over Batman, but IMHO he's so good he deserves something bigger.

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Picked up the 2 Umbrella Academy trades. Grant Morrison jocking it in Supergods got me interested. Only cracked the first couple of pages but I dig it so far. Love the art, and any story that begins with an atomic elbow on a space squid pretty much has my attention

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I cannot say that I cared for the last two issues of Black Hammer though. It's not that it was bad, but the 'creations meet their creators' bit has been done to death and if this is where the whole thing is headed then it seems like a cheap cop out to me.

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19 minutes ago, Lou K said:

I cannot say that I cared for the last two issues of Black Hammer though. It's not that it was bad, but the 'creations meet their creators' bit has been done to death and if this is where the whole thing is headed then it seems like a cheap cop out to me.

And not as good as that "I can see you" page in Animal Man back in '88?

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I always liked the ones where Daffy Duck gets into a shouting match with the animator and is redrawn as something odder to spite him. Breaking the fourth wall or what?

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That Marvel Comics Living Eraser story by Lee and Kirby was pretty trippy too. It was meta, without being self-referential.

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37 minutes ago, dogpoet said:

I always liked the ones where Daffy Duck gets into a shouting match with the animator and is redrawn as something odder to spite him. Breaking the fourth wall or what?

Or erases his beak!

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9 minutes ago, Lou K said:

Or erases his beak!

Yep. You do wonder why Ted Pierce never went into comics, really. He'd have done a classic Batman run, at the very least...

[ETA: I tell a lie - Duck Amuck was written by Michael Maltese, not Ted Pierce.]

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Oh....my....gosh! This is looking to end up being my favourite comic book of 2019 already.

This is the comic book you always wanted Alan Moore to write, but never knew you needed him to do it.

It's called Life on the Moon, about the 1835 New York Sun "Great Moon Hoax".

You have no idea how often I've dreamt that there really were bat-people living on the Moon.....

https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC180795

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Been reading through the Complete Phonogram recently, and it's so so good.  I'd read the original "Rue Britannia" mini way back in the day and really enjoyed it, but never picked up the follow-up series.  "The Singles Club" was fantastic on just about every level, and I'm about halfway through the good-but-not-quite-as-good "Immaterial Girl" mini.  I really, really wish Keiron Gillen had been given a chance on Hellblazer, I think Phonogram proved he'd have produced at the very least a thoroughly interesting run with John.

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Berger Books continues to show promise for Dark Horse. Two new books have been announced for early 2019; a new J.M. DeMatteis series and a creator owned book from G. Willow Wilson.

Wilson's book will be a science fiction story with political overtones.

DeMatteis' new series is called the Girl in the Bay, and sounds like a return to the sorts of themes used in his early work at Vertigo.

The imprint also has a strong showing from prose genre writer, Nnedi Okorafor, currently.

This is the type of premise I wanted to see from Berger Books, reminding me more of what Vertigo Comics used to represent.

Only Nocenti's The Seeds reminded me of better-days Vertigo from the initial launches. That book ended up being delayed and then left unfinished (after only two issues), sadly. It showed a lot of possibility.

 

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A Peter Cannon series written by Kieron Gillen? What could go wrong? Well, a lot, I discovered.

Every damn Peter Cannon comic book since Watchmen has to use Cannon as a stand-in for Ozymandias now. How ironic.

The world is on the brink of World War III. Oh, there's an alien invasion. The world is in danger. Who can save us? What's that? The world is growing united! Yay! Oh, but what's this? There was no actual alien invasion? It was all a clever plot by an amoral mastermind? What are the ethics of such?

Yawn.

The last Peter Cannon relaunch (written by Steve Darnell) used this exact same set up. I expected a lot better from Gillen.

Granted, Gillen does throw a twist in there....but, it's not an interesting one.

I will say that Gillen's take on Peter Cannon, as a man so far above the rest of humanity that he's not sure if he wants to save the human race is an interesting idea. Sadly, Gillen did not stick with this direction for very long. That's a much more interesting direction. I would much rather read a story about that character.

Peter Cannon did exist before Alan Moore.

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Girl in the Bay #1 (by J.M. DeMatteis)-This is really very good. It reminds me quite a bit of those original comics from Vertigo that DeMatteis wrote for the imprint when it was first starting. It's a series very much worth reading and following. Highly recommended, especially for long-time fans of DeMatteis.

Red Sonja #1 (by Mark Russell)-This is also very good. I like that Russell adds some levity to the "sword and sorcery" sub-genre. Not in a spoof manner of sending up the tropes of said sub-genre (which gets old and usually isn't even funny), which has been done before, but in a way where Russell is mocking imperialism. I'll keep reading this. So far, another hit for Mark Russell.

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3 hours ago, JasonT said:

 

Fear not! His "superhero Jesus comedy" for DC has been cancelled: https://www.newsarama.com/43906-dc-s-superhero-jesus-comedy-second-coming-canceled.html

Mark has confirmed that he and the artist have gotten the rights back from DC and are looking for a new publisher at the moment:

I wonder if DC cancelled their publication of the issues because of those angry Right Wingers who saw the Fox News report on the comic and decided to launch a petition to cancel it, it wouldn't surprise me if the higher-ups were looking to avoid more controversy after the whole Batawang business from Batman: Damned.

Overall shame since it was the only NuVertigo book I was interested in!

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Oh shit. The second issue was just solicited. It sounded really good too.

Yeah, as Gotta says, it was the only new Vertigo book I was interested in.

That just proves this is not the "old Vertigo", as they caved in to P.C. pressure and refused to publish a controversial comic book.

This is the pre-Vertigo Rick Veitch Swamp Thing DC days, which refused to publish a controversial yet intellectually probing look at Jesus. 

This was not a simply blasphemous comic for the sake of being cool (which is so tired), but one with an actual message worth exploring.

Hopefully, Russell will be able to take his project to a publisher which respects creativity now.

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Marvel and DC seem to be going in this direction now, trying to walk an ever-tightening tightrope between the Social Justice Left and the alt-Right, who spend their time complaining about anything they don't agree with, ad nauseam.

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