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and that Gilbert Hernandez is about to be too.

Sloth (Beto's graphic novel for Vertigo) came out last week!

Didn't he put out a miniseries there the other year, or was that one of his brothers?

 

you mean GRIP - The Strange World of Men? that came out three or four years back, I think.

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Yeah. It was a Hernandez comic published by Vertigo.

It was also unreadable drivel!

 

Rosa-I was thinking that when Comics Preview wrote that.

"Uh, that would probably be a war story comic instead of non-genre...." But then I thought, "Well, unless that's a horribly written preview of the comic, maybe this book has nothing at all to do with the Vietnam War. Maybe it's slice-of-life stories, humanizing the Vietnamese, with the war as a backdrop. Maybe it's how the N.L.F. dealt with day-to-day realities in the middle of a war zone."

 

I'm pretty positive that you can't solicit a new line of slice-of-life comics and also announce that Vertigo is going to publish American Splendour and not have the two go hand-in-hand!

 

That story about the artist dealing with alcoholism is another non-genre or slice-of-life comic.

Wasn't that book already published by Fantagraphics though? Wasn't it called Alex and wasn't it written by Mark Kalesniko?

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Yeah. It was a Hernandez comic published by Vertigo.

It was also unreadable drivel!

 

 

Good lord. I totally agree with Christian about something. Is it that time of the year already?

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Yeah. It was a Hernandez comic published by Vertigo.

It was also unreadable drivel!

 

 

Good lord. I totally agree with Christian about something. Is it that time of the year already?

 

It's worse than that — I agree with both of you! :o

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Yeah. It was a Hernandez comic published by Vertigo.

It was also unreadable drivel!

 

 

Good lord. I totally agree with Christian about something. Is it that time of the year already?

 

It's worse than that — I agree with both of you! :o

 

and I disagree with the lot of you!

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Yeah, well. We

All have to be wrong

Sometimes.

 

I love Los Bros, but

Grip was total

Arse.

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Yeah. It was a Hernandez comic published by Vertigo.

It was also unreadable drivel!

Good lord. I totally agree with Christian about something. Is it that time of the year already?

It's worse than that — I agree with both of you! :o

And though I've never read the book in question, I've also never been overly impressed with the Hernandez brothers, so I might agree with the lot of you.

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you're all

very wrong

indeed. but I

won't hold that

against

you since

I know my

taste is impeccable.

 

:biggrin:

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I bought a volume

of the traded

Love and Rockets

I'm afraid it's

not my cup of tea.

EBayed it.

 

Bought the first issue of Grip.

Didn't like it. What a rip.

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Holy hell! Me agreeing with Jason T?!

I feel so dirty!

 

I've frequently said that I don't enjoy L & R, but at least it's better than Grip.

I'll most likely buy Sloth when it comes out in softcover to see if I like it any better than the Hernandez' other work.

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Yes, that makes sense. And I'm going to pay good money for dogshit, to see if it's any better than the last crap that dog did.

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Everyone keeps telling me how wonderful the Hernandez brothers are. I figure eventually I'll have to read something good by them!

I like the description of the plot for Sloth. It sounds interesting.

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Everyone keeps telling me how wonderful the Hernandez brothers are. I figure eventually I'll have to read something good by them!

Ouch! :biggrin: Best of luck then. But have you considered downloading scans first to see if you like it?

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I don't have the technology the rest of you have.

I don't even own a computer.

In fact, I don't even have a corporeal form anymore.

Somehow, when I died in 1940, my brain kept working in my dead body. Eventually, my conciousness left the body. It wandered forth, trying to find....something....

Eventually, I came across this web-site.

Now, my brain exists within this web-site.

I don't have access to anything else. I'm trapped in this web-site, all day and night.

It's a good life, if you don't weaken.

 

.....I'll probably rent it from the library to see if it's any good.

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if someone could please recomend something preferably hardcover or trade by jamie hernandez i would like to check out more from him.

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Locas, the Love & Rockets hardcover which collects the bulk of his work on that series. It's huge, and brilliant.

 

If you like it, you should also check out the companion volume, Palomar, by his brother Gilbert. They're very different books, but complement each other very well indeed.

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if someone could please recomend something preferably hardcover or trade by jamie hernandez i would like to check out more from him.

 

if you want a hardcover by Jaime and are not afarid to spend some cash, get the collected LOCAS for 50 bucks. it collects all his Love & Rockets work from L&R volume 1. it might seem like a lot of cash, but apart from the scifi stuff early on, this is among the best American comics has to offer. if that's too rich, I'd recommend the trades "Locas in Love", "Dicks and Deedes" and "Ghost of Hoppers" (these are all set post LOCAS). be aware though, you'll get much more enjoyment of those three books if you've read LOCAS first.

 

that said, the best story Jaime has ever produced has to be "The Death of Speedy" (available in LOCAS or as a seperate graphic novel).

 

Fantagraphics will apparently be reprinting all of L&R has smaller (manga) sized collections. I'm not sure how that'll work. Jaime's style works better on big pages, and Gilbert's L&R pages can go up to 12 panels each, which I think will be impossible to reproduce on that size...

 

EDIT: as usual, Mark speaks truth, Palomar is also excellent. Gilbert's post Palomar stuff can be very hit and miss for people (it's much more soap opera than Palomar), which is probably why I'm so very excited Gilbert's new ongoing comic for Fantagraphics will be set in Palomar again. btw, Mark, if you liked Palomar you owe it to yourself to also read Poison River, explaining where Luba comes from. it's some of the best stuff Gilbert has ever done.

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Marc Oliver Frisch has added an interesting section to his look at DC sales figures that includes a 3 year look back at average Vertigo sales.

 

VERTIGO

06/2003: 16,414

06/2004: 17,378

—————

06/2005: 14,165 (- 2.5%)

07/2005: 16,641 (+17.5%)

08/2005: 13,652 (-18.0%)

09/2005: 14,287 (+ 4.7%)

10/2005: 16,009 (+12.1%)

11/2005: 15,730 (- 1.7%)

12/2005: 16,320 (+ 3.8%)

01/2006: 15,036 (- 7.9%)

02/2006: 15,026 (- 0.1%)

03/2006: 15,812 (+ 5.2%)

04/2006: 15,473 (- 2.1%)

05/2006: 15,266 (- 1.3%)

06/2006: 14,965 (- 2.0%)

—————-

6 months: - 8.3%

1 year : + 5.7%

2 years : -13.9%

3 years : - 8.8%

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Vertigo's figures for July 2006, care of Marc -

 

(86) JACK OF FABLES (Vertigo)

07/2006: Jack of Fables #1 — 27,097

 

(87) Y: THE LAST MAN (Vertigo)

07/2003: Y: The Last Man #13 — 26,755

07/2004: Y: The Last Man #24 — 26,630

————————————–

07/2005: Y: The Last Man #35 — 26,449 (-1.2%)

08/2005: Y: The Last Man #36 — 26,558 (+0.4%)

09/2005: Y: The Last Man #37 — 26,638 (+0.3%)

10/2005: Y: The Last Man #38 — 26,535 (-0.4%)

11/2005: Y: The Last Man #39 — 26,395 (-0.5%)

12/2005: Y: The Last Man #40 — 26,006 (-1.5%)

01/2006: Y: The Last Man #41 — 25,931 (-0.3%)

02/2006: Y: The Last Man #42 — 25,775 (-0.6%)

03/2006: Y: The Last Man #43 — 25,877 (+0.4%)

04/2006: Y: The Last Man #44 — 25,985 (+0.4%)

05/2006: Y: The Last Man #45 — 25,866 (-0.5%)

06/2006: Y: The Last Man #46 — 25,881 (+0.1%)

07/2006: Y: The Last Man #47 — 25,791 (-0.4%)

—————

6 months: -0.5%

1 year : -2.5%

2 years : -3.2%

 

(91) FABLES (Vertigo)

07/2003: Fables #15 — 25,567

07/2004: Fables #27 — 25,146

—————————–

07/2005: Fables #39 — 24,617 (-0.8%)

08/2005: Fables #40 — 24,952 (+1.4%)

09/2005: Fables #41 — 25,001 (+0.2%)

10/2005: Fables #42 — 24,953 (-0.2%)

11/2005: Fables #43 — 24,659 (-1.2%)

12/2005: Fables #44 — 24,515 (-0.6%)

01/2006: Fables #45 — 24,297 (-0.9%)

02/2006: Fables #46 — 24,134 (-0.7%)

03/2006: Fables #47 — 24,278 (+0.6%)

04/2006: Fables #48 — 24,476 (+0.8%)

05/2006: Fables #49 — 24,444 (-0.1%)

06/2006: Fables #50 — 26,210 (+7.2%)

07/2006: Fables #51 — 25,087 (-4.3%)

—————

6 months: +3.3%

1 year : +1.9%

2 years : -0.2%

 

(120) NEIL GAIMAN’S NEVERWHERE (Vertigo)

07/2005: Neverwhere #2 (of 9) — 25,166 (-18.3%)

08/2005: Neverwhere #3 (of 9) — 22,727 (- 9.7%)

09/2005: Neverwhere #4 (of 9) — 21,636 (- 4.8%)

10/2005: –

11/2005: Neverwhere #5 (of 9) — 19,514 (- 9.8%)

12/2005: –

01/2006: –

02/2006: Neverwhere #6 (of 9) — 18,406 (- 5.7%)

03/2005: –

04/2006: –

05/2006: Neverwhere #7 (of 9) — 17,568 (- 4.6%)

06/2006: –

07/2006: Neverwhere #8 (of 9) — 16,952 (- 3.5%)

 

(133) DMZ (Vertigo)

11/2005: DMZ #1 — 18,705

12/2005: DMZ #2 — 14,840 (-20.7%)

01/2006: DMZ #3 — 14,503 (- 2.3%)

02/2006: DMZ #4 — 14,778 (+ 1.9%)

03/2006: DMZ #5 — 14,952 (+ 1.2%)

04/2006: DMZ #6 — 15,212 (+ 1.7%)

05/2006: DMZ #7 — 15,026 (- 1.2%)

06/2006: DMZ #8 — 14,999 (- 0.2%)

07/2006: DMZ #9 — 14,786 (- 1.4%)

—————

6 months: +2.0%

 

(135) LOVELESS (Vertigo)

10/2005: Loveless #1 — 22,483

11/2005: Loveless #2 — 17,667 (-21.4%)

12/2005: Loveless #3 — 16,280 (- 7.9%) — [17,584]

01/2006: –

02/2006: Loveless #4 — 16,765 (+ 3.0%)

03/2006: Loveless #5 — 16,704 (- 0.4%)

04/2006: Loveless #6 — 16,823 (+ 0.7%)

05/2006: Loveless #7 — 15,961 (- 5.1%)

06/2006: Loveless #8 — 14,915 (- 6.6%)

07/2006: Loveless #9 — 14,434 (- 3.2%)

 

(137) BITE CLUB: VAMPIRE CRIME UNIT (Vertigo)

07/2004: Bite Club #4 (of 6) — 19,307

——————————————-

04/2006: Bite Club: VCU #1 (of 6) — 17,195

05/2006: Bite Club: VCU #2 (of 6) — 15,652 (-9.0%)

06/2006: Bite Club: VCU #3 (of 6) — 14,777 (-5.6%)

07/2006: Bite Club: VCU #4 (of 6) — 14,162 (-4.2%)

 

(138 ) HELLBLAZER (Vertigo)

07/2003: Hellblazer #186 — 16,405

07/2004: Hellblazer #198 — 14,772

———————————-

07/2005: Hellblazer #210 — 14,801 (- 2.3%)

08/2005: Hellblazer #211 — 14,727 (- 0.5%)

09/2005: Hellblazer #212 — 14,714 (- 0.1%)

10/2005: Hellblazer #213 — 14,688 (- 0.2%)

11/2005: Hellblazer #214 — 14,766 (+ 0.5%)

12/2005: Hellblazer #215 — 14,405 (- 2.5%)

01/2006: Hellblazer #216 — 14,590 (+ 1.3%)

02/2006: Hellblazer #217 — 14,306 (- 2.0%)

03/2006: Hellblazer #218 — 14,129 (- 1.2%)

04/2006: Hellblazer #219 — 14,206 (+ 0.6%)

05/2006: Hellblazer #220 — 14,161 (- 0.3%)

06/2006: Hellblazer #221 — 13,973 (- 1.3%)

07/2006: Hellblazer #222 — 13,912 (- 0.4%)

—————

6 months: -4.7%

1 year : -6.0%

2 years : -5.8%

 

(142) AMERICAN VIRGIN (Vertigo)

03/2006: American Virgin #1 — 19,455

04/2006: American Virgin #2 — 15,780 (-18.9%)

05/2006: American Virgin #3 — 14,764 (- 6.4%)

06/2006: American Virgin #4 — 14,081 (- 4.6%)

07/2006: American Virgin #5 — 13,265 (- 5.8%)

 

(143) 100 BULLETS (Vertigo)

07/2003: 100 Bullets #46 — 17,108

07/2004: 100 Bullets #51 — 16,960

———————————-

07/2005: 100 Bullets #62 — 14,867 (- 0.4%)

08/2005: 100 Bullets #63 — 14,793 (- 0.5%)

09/2005: 100 Bullets #64 — 14,708 (- 0.6%)

10/2005: 100 Bullets #65 — 14,744 (+ 0.3%)

11/2005: 100 Bullets #66 — 14,425 (- 2.2%)

12/2005: 100 Bullets #67 — 14,165 (- 1.8%)

01/2006: 100 Bullets #68 — 13,879 (- 2.0%)

02/2006: 100 Bullets #69 — 13,708 (- 1.2%)

03/2006: 100 Bullets #70 — 13,591 (- 0.9%)

04/2006: 100 Bullets #71 — 13,514 (- 0.6%)

05/2006: 100 Bullets #72 — 13,489 (- 0.2%)

06/2006: 100 Bullets #73 — 13,407 (- 0.6%)

07/2006: 100 Bullets #74 — 13,265 (- 1.1%)

 

(157) TESTAMENT (Vertigo)

12/2005: Testament #1 — 16,893 — [18,166]

01/2006: Testament #2 — 13,518 (-20.0%)

02/2006: Testament #3 — 12,831 (- 5.1%)

03/2006: Testament #4 — 13,074 (+ 1.9%)

04/2006: Testament #5 — 12,770 (- 2.3%)

05/2006: Testament #6 — 12,361 (- 3.2%)

06/2006: Testament #7 — 11,770 (- 4.8%)

07/2006: Testament #8 — 11,073 (- 5.9%)

 

(160) THE EXTERMINATORS (Vertigo)

01/2006: The Exterminators #1 — 16,187

02/2006: The Exterminators #2 — 12,459 (-23.0%)

03/2006: The Exterminators #3 — 11,678 (- 6.3%)

04/2006: The Exterminators #4 — 11,342 (- 2.9%)

05/2006: The Exterminators #5 — 10,978 (- 3.2%)

06/2006: The Exterminators #6 — 11,004 (+ 0.2%)

07/2006: The Exterminators #7 — 10,743 (- 2.4%)

 

Not looking too good there for either Testament or The Exterminators.

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HELLBLAZER (Vertigo)

6 months: -4.7%

1 year : -6.0%

2 years : -5.8%

:sad:

 

Not looking too good there for The Exterminators.

 

:sad::sad:

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Damnit, I'm really enjoying the Exterminators as well. I've seen a few sites where people have been saying they'll pick up the trade so I'm hoping the good word will spread and that will be enough to save it.

 

At least the Hellblazer results show that things have improved very slightly in the second year compared to the first (that's -6% and -5.8% compared to year one, right?).

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I wonder if Vertigo would sell more comics if DC still advertised between its various imprints? Or even just the occasional advert in the Wildstorm stuff if they insist on imposing a firewall between the proper adult litearary stuff and the dirt stupid superhero comics...

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HELLBLAZER (Vertigo)

6 months: -4.7%

1 year : -6.0%

2 years : -5.8%

 

:sad:

 

 

Not looking too good there for Testament.

 

 

:sad::sad:

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I wonder if Vertigo would sell more comics if DC still advertised between its various imprints? Or even just the occasional advert in the Wildstorm stuff if they insist on imposing a firewall between the proper adult litearary stuff and the dirt stupid superhero comics...

 

I don't think there's a lot of crossover appeal between the average DC superhero comic reader and the average Vertigo reader.

 

WildStorm readers might find Vertigo appealing, but I'm guessing if the person is reading WildStorm books they'll already know about Vertigo.

 

It might increase sales very so slightly though, who knows...

 

Does WildStorm sell better than Vertigo?

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