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A. Heathen    1,131

a-HA! that's where you are wrong, because it was not John but a representation of him inside the American Alec-Holland-Thing.

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Mark    333

Which would make it an American's idea of how a British person would talk, and therefore perfectly appropriate within the context of the story.

 

Do I get a no-prize?

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J. White    6

Corben's Constantine never looked right to me.

 

Was "spooge" used the same was I used to hear it in high school - to cum?

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A. Heathen    1,131
Which would make it an American's idea of how a British person would talk, and therefore perfectly appropriate within the context of the story.

 

Do I get a no-prize?

 

No, because you just copied what I pointed out.

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JohnMcMahon    566

"in the new year i'm doing a fill in on SWAMP THING, which i get to colour myself and go all out on the pyschological horror aspects. can't wait... it's not something i get to indulge in on a lot of the other stuff i do." - JOCK

 

This suggests that Swamp Thing will be running through till at least March of next year, at which point it'll be selling maybe 20 copies an issue.

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A. Heathen    1,131

At least I'll buy that issue.

 

Dysart has some really interesting things to say on the ST forum, but I just cannot work out how his ideas fail to connect with paper.

 

Although looking at yet another Abby and Swampy reunited page at the end of the last issue, i suggest "editorial meddling".

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Christian    752

Oh dear lord!

Vertigo is intent on flushing the entire S.T. franchise right down the drain, aren't they?

They'll have to have an "Infinite Crisis" just for the "Swamp Thing" continuity.

 

Dysart has always been a writer with decent ideas who can't get them on paper. He's an "idea man". He needs to have struggling writers with a modicum of talent pay him for ideas.

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James    38

Swampy and Abby split up.

 

Swampy messes around with his elemental powers.

 

Swampy and Abby get back together.

 

Isn't that a summary of pretty much every Swamp Thing story since Moore left the title? There's nothing more to be done with this guy, or at least nothing that can be done by having him in his own comic. Drop the Swamp Thing title once and for all and save Alec for occasional Hellblazer and DCU appearances.

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Jamesb    0

Never realised the Mark Millar did some swamp thing, to be honest, aftr Moore I havent read any, and I only look at them, cause of the excellent John Higgins covers

 

so, Mark Millar - any good?

on swamp thing, cuase Ultimates rocks!

 

Jamesb

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Christian    752

I don't care for "Ultimates", so don't judge my recommendation on that.

 

I really liked Mark Millar's run on S.T. I say it's very much worth your time to hunt down.

Moore, Veitch, and Millar are the only runs of S.T. I like (love).

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JohnMcMahon    566

His run has the good word behind it, the early parts were written with Grant Morrison.

 

I have his final story arc here in the flat and I thought it was pretty shit but again it generally speaking got positive write-ups.

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Jamesb    0

Righto....

 

only two... gach.

 

sometihing to think about then, might pick them up, is morrisons run nessacary too for the story?

 

Jamesb

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JohnMcMahon    566

09/2004: Swamp Thing #7 -- 20,238 (+ 1.3%)

10/2004: Swamp Thing #8 -- 18,711 (- 7.6%)

11/2004: Swamp Thing #9 -- 16,790 (-10.3%)

12/2004: Swamp Thing #10 -- 15,846 (- 5.6%)

01/2005: Swamp Thing #11 -- 14,300 (- 9.8%)

02/2005: Swamp Thing #12 -- 13,452 (- 5.9%)

03/2005: Swamp Thing #13 -- 12,707 (- 5.5%)

04/2005: Swamp Thing #14 -- 12,057 (- 5.1%)

05/2005: Swamp Thing #15 -- 11,542 (- 4.3%)

06/2005: Swamp Thing #16 -- 10,962 (- 5.0%)

07/2005: Swamp Thing #17 -- 10,345 (- 5.6%)

08/2005: Swamp Thing #18 -- 10,112 (- 2.3%)

09/2005: Swamp Thing #19 -- 9,726 (- 3.8%)

 

And it's going to run to #25 at least.

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Demon Chas08    295
09/2004: Swamp Thing #7  -- 20,238 (+ 1.3%)

10/2004: Swamp Thing #8  -- 18,711 (- 7.6%)

11/2004: Swamp Thing #9  -- 16,790 (-10.3%)

12/2004: Swamp Thing #10 -- 15,846 (- 5.6%)

01/2005: Swamp Thing #11 -- 14,300 (- 9.8%)

02/2005: Swamp Thing #12 -- 13,452 (- 5.9%)

03/2005: Swamp Thing #13 -- 12,707 (- 5.5%)

04/2005: Swamp Thing #14 -- 12,057 (- 5.1%)

05/2005: Swamp Thing #15 -- 11,542 (- 4.3%)

06/2005: Swamp Thing #16 -- 10,962 (- 5.0%)

07/2005: Swamp Thing #17 -- 10,345 (- 5.6%)

08/2005: Swamp Thing #18 -- 10,112 (- 2.3%)

09/2005: Swamp Thing #19 --  9,726 (- 3.8%)

 

And it's going to run to #25 at least.

Ouchies.

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Mark    333
sometihing to think about then, might pick them up, is morrisons run nessacary too for the story?

 

As far as I'm concerned, Moore's run alone is "necessary", with the earlier Wein/Wrightson volume serving as a nice prequel, and Veitch's work as an unnecessary, not-too-bad-but-nothing-like-as-good follow-up. Unless you really, really, really want to know more, I wouldn't bother with any of the rest, to be honest - I may be judging the Morrison/Millar stuff too harshly based on a fairly limited exposure to them, but none of the post-Moore issues I've read has made any kind of compelling case for reading the rest of them.

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Jamesb    0
sometihing to think about then, might pick them up, is morrisons run nessacary too for the story?

 

As far as I'm concerned, Moore's run alone is "necessary",

 

 

thats what I would have thought too, bit am willing to give them a try if they are cheap

 

james

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Christian    752

You should be able to get them dirt-cheap, although they are sort of rare by this point.

 

Morrison co-wrote the first 4 issue story-arc of Millar's run. It sets the tone for the following stories, but I don't think you'd be terribly lost without out. Although you would be missing a hell of a story with Abby as a cellulite riddled whore in Amsterdam, which is worth ANY amount of money! :biggrin:

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A. Heathen    1,131

Talking to Jock about his issue and I'll definitely be buying it.

 

Fingers crossed for the other chap's work on the issue!

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