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The Golden Age of the new 52 DCU

Which of DC's comics will you be picking up henceforward  

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  1. 1. Justice League

    • Justice League (Johns, Lee)
    • JLI (Jurgens, Lopresti)
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    • Aquadog (Johns, Reis)
    • Wonder Chick (Azzman, Chang)
    • The Flash (Manapul)
    • Captain Tiny (Krull, WII)
      0
    • Green Arrow (Krul, Jurgens, Nocenti incoming)
    • Mister Terrific (Wallace, Gugliotta)
      0
    • Savage HawkDragon (Daniel, Bonny, Tan)
      0
    • Furry Firestorm (Harris, Van Sciver, Cinar)
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    • none of these
  2. 2. Superman and the Lanterns of Green

    • Action (Mozzer & Mor)
    • Boy (Lobdell & Silva)
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    • Girl (Green, Johnson, Asrar)
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    • Man (Perez, Merino)
      0
    • GL A (Boris Johns & Doug Mahnke)
    • GLC (Tomasi, no Pasarin)
    • GL NNNNGGGG! (Bedard, Kirkham)
    • Fred Lanterns (Milligan't, Benes)
    • none of the above
  3. 3. Children's Justice

    • Teeny Titans (Lobdell, Booth)
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    • Static Shock (Bernadin, McDaniel)
      0
    • Hawk & Doo (Gates, LIEFELD, Iaskyou! WHY?)
      0
    • Blue Beetle (Bedard, Iguana)
    • L.G.S.O.H (Levitz, Portela)
      0
    • Legion Lost (De Falco, Woods)
      0
    • no kids stuff
  4. 4. Children's Smut (& some others)

    • Stormwatch (Cornell, Sepultura)
    • Grifter (Edmundson, Snafoo)
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    • Death's Toke (Higgins, Bennet)
      0
    • Sueisfine Squad (Glass, Rudy)
      0
    • OMAC (Diddy-O, Giffen)
    • Black Ox (Costa, Lottley)
      0
    • Voodoo Booboo, more like (Marz, Basri)
      0
    • Men of War (Brandon, Derrenick)
      0
    • Wild Wild Western (Palmiotti & Gray, Moritat)
    • DCU Presents (Deadman 1-5: Jenkins, Chang; Challengers 6-8: Didio, Ordway)
    • Thanks but no thanks
  5. 5. When they say "Dark" they mean shite, or Vertigo brown.

    • Swamp Thang (Snyder, Packet)
    • Animal Man (Lemire, Foreman)
    • Frankie and his Four Seasons (Lemur, Ponticelli)
    • Resurrection Man (Abnett & Lanning, Dagnino)
    • I, Vampire (Jenkins & Jae Lee, I mean Fialkov & Sorrento)
    • Children's Hellblazer, feat. The Hellblazer & his Magick Ho's & some mad dudes (Milligan't, Janin)
    • Demon Knights (Cornell, Neves)
    • these all leave me in the dark
  6. 6. Batman

    • Batman (Snyder, Capabullo)
    • Bazinga (Winick, Olivier)
    • Batman & Robin (Tomasi, Gleason)
    • Bats in the Attic (Finch, Jenkins, Finch)
    • Bat to the Future (Lobdell, Rocafort)
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    • Batchick (Simone, Syaf)
      0
    • Batlady (Wiii, Jesus was Blackman, no Jesus was Batman, no that was Bruce Wayne)
    • Catchick (Winick, March)
      0
    • Bats of Prey (Sweetchinski, Says)
    • Nightwing (Higgins, Barrows)
    • DC's DC comic: DC (Daniel)
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    • Bat's all folks!
  7. 7. On a scale of 0 to 52, how successful was this relaunch?

    • 0 - not at all good
    • 2 - not too bad
    • 52 - other


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It does? You mean the Batman:The Return of Bruce Wayne mini? Yeah, that was.

 

 

 

Yup, that's what I mean.

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Oh GM's Batman gets cosmic, if that's what you're looking for. No doubt about that.

 

That's what bothers me, that Morrison tells that kind of story through Batman. For all of his brilliance and resources Batman works best at street level against psychologically and physically scarred individuals in a ruined gothic city. When he worked with the JLI in the 90s he was a crazyman who intimidated heroes that punched gods through skyscrapers. That was enjoyable for me because he was never elevated to their level. If somebody wants to do a story where Batman is a sort of Satan who imprisons the energies of man, I'm on board. I liked Morrison's occult references in "Arkham Asylum" but they stemmed from a couple of the characters and didn't turn the entire book into a stream-of-consciousness log of the ubermensch. Superman on the other hand is a perfect vehicle for what's great about Morrison. There seems to be endless potential for conflict between the character's almost hokey but likable morality and the twisted, cosmic, improbable feats he could accomplish. I don't want to rant, but I'm uncomfortable with something even as cool as a hovering Batmobile. Ah, I really should finish the books before I put my foot in my mouth.

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I see. Sometimes it works and sometimes, as Chrisian said, it seems like a Batman story being told by a guy on LSD, which worked for R.I.P. and the Batman of Zurr-Enn-Arrh. But even toward the end or The Return of Bruce Wayne I was like :blink: :mong:

 

I also agree that hthis sort of thing is perfect for Superman, which we saw in All Star.

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The big problem with Morrison taking over on Batman was that, to me, he seemed in awe of the character.

Eventually, he got over it, killed Wayne and wrote stories influenced by the 1950s-era on Batman, and everything was fine.

I agree that Batman isn't the best book for Morrison's talent though, and I was glad to see him move on to another character. Sadly, he's back to having to do Batman Inc. as a monthly book again.

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Green Arrow #7-Wow, that was one awful comic. Another failure from the New DC, there's no stopping them now. Even bringing Anne Nocenti (Annie? Huh?) back to comics can't help....I love Nocenti's writing, but this was one of the worst comic I've read in a while...and I've been reading Hellblazer and Justice League Dark!

Well, ok, Firestorm was worse, come to think of it.

This was early-'90s Image levels of bad.

I could list the top ten things wrong about this comic, but it's just such a horrible read that I don't want to spend more time than this book deserves.

 

Ironically, I dug into the back-issue boxes and found an issue of Web of Spider Man Annual that contains a story by Nocenti and art by Mignola. It cleansed the palate after the abomination of GA.

 

Night Force #1-This was a good comic, on the other hand. It's also a mini-series, rather than a monthly, so the New DC is a bit off again.

If you liked the original, if you liked the relaunch, you'll enjoy this book.

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As far as the "earl '90s Image level of bad" thang goes, you do know that Rob fookin' Liefeld is being brought back to write a few comics in a couple of months?

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New Action Comics was good. Looking forward to next issue where Supes kicks Brainiac's ass!

 

Also read all 7 issues of the Swamp Thing. This is some killer stuff! Love Paquette on art and would like to see Snyder on Hellblazer someday.

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New Action Comics was good. Looking forward to next issue where Supes kicks Brainiac's ass!

 

Also read all 7 issues of the Swamp Thing. This is some killer stuff!

 

 

I'm going to have read Action Comics after all it seems. Swamp Thing's not bad but I wish they'd drop the pace a gear or two. It is supposed to be a horror comic. ...Isn't it? I want a chance to be horrified.

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I like Action but it seems folks are pretty 'meh' about it. GM set the bar pretty high with All Star so if that is what you are looking for it's not quite there...yet. But I feel it can get there.

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Oh god. I've been singing the praises of Paul Jenkins' run on hellblazer, and I just saw that he's writing the worst of all the new 52s-Stormwatch. GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I picked it up but I'm certain even he can't pull that shitsack out of the sewer. I will report when I'm done. I swore I wouldn't buy that used condom of a comic ever again, and look at me. I feel naked.

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I think Jenkins lost whatever chops he had when he wrote HB. His work on Batman: The dark Knight was abysmal; felt and looked like a bad Image comic from the 90s. Deadman was OK for a bit but the ending sucked. Your boy fell off, man.

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flipping through it now, and i think you're right. Apollo: "If I wanted to be careful, I would have worked in a book store."

 

Someone thought that was clever and witty. But it's just shitty to me. I'll use it as my teepee.....for my bunghole!

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Jenkins wrote a bunch of poor work for hire crap for Marvel during their "big cross-overs" days.

Jenkins hasn't been the same since about 2004.

His newer writing doesn't take away from the fact that he was once one of comic's best.

He might've been killed off and replaced by a robot version of Brian Bendis though. I've heard that's what's been happ;ening to a lot of talented writers. The Bendis-Borg Collective, which is the new owner of Marvel (under the Earth name of Disney) is killing off internet fandom's favourite comic writers in an attempt to force everyone to accept the group-mind consensus that "Bendis is the best".

I heard Milligan was the first. Only Morrison's Chaos Magic skills have saved him so far.

"Join with the Bendis!"

 

I enjoyed the new issue of Action Comics, as well. I like stories featuring takes on Kandor, and Morrison's version of Brainiac seems neat. It's a series worth a read, at the very least.

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His take on The Inhumans wasn't too bad. Mind you, the less said about that Spiderman and Daredevil miniseries he did, the better...

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Helllblazer 95-98

Werewolf By Night (with Manco) 98

Strange Tales 98

Inhumans 98-99

Sentry 00-01

 

That's all folks.

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Peter Parker:Spider Man must be included on the list.

It was the best run on Spider Man since the 1980s, at the least.

That was the time that everyone was raving about that piss-poor JMS run on Amazing, while Jenkins did superb work in quiet on the "other" Spider book.

So, that was 2000-2003.

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His newer writing doesn't take away from the fact that he was once one of comic's best.

 

I must have missed that part.

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Stormwatch is utter shit.

 

It has been for years, alongside all the other WildStorm characters.

Stormwatch was only good when Ellis was on the book.

Same can be said for Authority.

I never liked WildCATs...not even Moore could help that book, for mine.

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I'd forgot about Sentry. Wonderful series, true enough.

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Stormwatch is utter shit.

 

It has been for years, alongside all the other WildStorm characters.

Stormwatch was only good when Ellis was on the book.

Same can be said for Authority.

I never liked WildCATs...not even Moore could help that book, for mine.

I totally disagree. Millar was nowhere near as bad as Stormwatch is now, and even Morrison--as bad as his run on the book was, it was nowhere near the level of sewage the book--and all of the new DC (including their awful new logo)--is now. And Morrison had an occasional good story--one maybe. Authority didn't sink into the subshit level until the Lost Year clusterfuck. Remember, they released 2 issues then waited 2 more years to finish it. By then, no one was interested, which was cool because it sucked hardcore porn balls. And then the whole Armageddon/Carrier smashing into London and midnighter's skip-to-ma-lu through England's MI6 alternate reality was so dumb it hurt my feelings. So, once again, as bad as Robbie Morrison was on the book, he didn't fuck it up nearly as bad as that superior writer with the same last name fucked it up, and then as badly as Wildstorm did-but those weren't even nearly as bad as Stormwatch is now. The shit it used to be almost smells springtime fresh compared to the Olean oily stench from the uncontrollable faucet of turds spewing from a putrid diseased digestive tract called the new 52. I wouldn't wipe my ass with those wretched pages.

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I totally disagree. Millar was nowhere near as bad as Stormwatch is now,

 

And Millar was nowhere near as good as Ellis was then.

 

Didn't Grant Morrison write like one issue to jumpstart it and that went nowhere? Same with WildC.A.T.S.?

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I can't believe that Stormwatch could be any worse than JLI. Surely it's not, right?

 

EDIT: for some reason, i missed that there was a whole other page to this thread, sorry for the post out of left field.

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