Zarathustra

Read Alan Moore's run on Supreme. It's Superman stories without Superman!

Ah, aren't those good old boys some great role models for our children?

But seriously, that article was interesting.  I can understand Moore's distrust of the Hollywood machine based on LoEG, and even his reluctance to work with Joel Silver a notorious cut-throat producer, but Chist Almighty, he should've given the V scripts a chance.  And to request the removal of his name from the books simply because in their most recent printing they're tied to the film?  That's ludicrous.  Even if he saw the film and hated it, it doesn't change what he originally wrote in the comic.  It's particularly maddening when you consider the fact that he repeatedly states how proud of the comic he is.  And Lloyd had no problem with the film..... 

But it really has no effect on whether he likes the scripts or not, none of these properties belong to him so he doesn't have any influence on any part of the movie. He was accused of and threatened to be sued for supposed plagarism with the LoEG flick, so I don't think he's particularly tenable to giving anyone in the entertainment industry a chance when it comes to making his works into movies.

We need someone here to watch it and present the official Straight to Hell review.

Has this series started yet?

He sends demons back to hell. He's a superhero, like tarzan, only different.

Chris: Where did you send them?

Constanteen: Back home.

Uh oh.

I just watched the last 2 episodes, Alive and Destroyer, and what a brilliant series this was, it's such a deplorable shame that Dini and Timm's universe has to finally come to an end, particularly with so much more potential left. Not just with the general premise of the League, but with the ongoing storyline here.

Darkseid finally discovers the solution to the Anti- Life equation! While Lex may have thought he was saving the Earth, he's just condemned the entire universe to a rule beneath Darkseid's hand! I'd love to see what happens next, now that both Luthor and Darkseid know the complete code, they're basically the only Gods that matter in the universe. And after what happened in Twilight, you can bet Braniac/Luthor and Darkseid would have some great interaction too.

All I can do here is throw up my hands and sigh. So the Batman's probably going to get renewed, and JLU gets canned?

Wasn't it Morpheus who ended Sandman? The Furies were more an incidental consequence of his actions rather than an intentional one.

Dude, they ENDED Sandman! They are monsters!

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Has anyone read Alan Moore's novel, Voice of the Fire? I've just trudged through the first chapter, and wouldn't mind a discussion on what happened exactly, with the interesting take on neolithic English, I'm certain I missed many of the events (or non- events), particularly since the narrator didn't seem to fully grasp the gravity of what was going on too well either.

I'm once again reminded why I dropped the mainstream Marvel/DC titles...

This edition is being produced with the blessing of Alan Moore? I've got the feeling that every new printing of the Watchmen is more to his chagrin than anything else.

It's astonishingly good.

 

Unlike the movie script, which - unless it's been substantially changed from the one that was posted up here by a certain forum regular last year - is an idiot's version of the story.

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Complete with Nite Owl killing Veidt at the end, because 'that's what Rorschach would've wanted'. Those scriptwriters really understood the characters and the themes of the Watchmen, eh?

The ending is still open. Seymour might pick another paper from the crank file, or the editor might write-off Rorschach's diary as a fake. And even if he puts it in the paper, the diary doesn't actually explain how Veidt is connected to the killings, or link him with the attack on New York (which hadn't happened at the point when Rorschach put the diary in the mailbox).

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And there's whether people actually believe the piece - like Veidt said, Rorschach isn't exactly perceived as the most credible person around. I'm sure you've seen the supermarket tabloids with their multitude of absurd conspiracy theories. In all likelihood, this would be one of them.

The ending is extremely open ended and is stated in Dr Manhattan's final words - nothing ever ends, life isn't a story, it's a continuum, there are no compact, wrapped up story threads, it simply goes on.

I didn't get the joke with the Stranger, was he upset because he wasn't invited to the party?

Zarathrustra - That didn't finish him off, though. Go here to learn more.

That Nergal's one resilient bastard, eh? Looks like he's taken as much punishment as a certain one eyed German military type.

Wasn't Nergal destroyed way back in Delano's run? I seem to remember John leading him to the gates of Heaven then letting the Angels there deal with him.

This wasn't a bad end to this story arc, but couldn't it have been resolved in 3 or 4 issues instead? For a storyline where John's kids were supposed to wreak havoc on his life, alot of nothing happened for too long, if it had been cut down by an issue or 2, it would've been much stronger for it's pacing. Other than that, it was a somewhat enjoyable issue, and it does serve as a good setup for the next storyline.

Lucifer #50 doesn't wrap up the story-lines that would be at the end of this Trade. #50 is an historical issue, giving back-story.

The story-line from #49 picks up later, so it doesn't really matter.

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Yeah, I know, but it'd be a nice thing to finish off this particular trade with.

Garth Ennis' Constantine wasn't a huge departure from the character, the main difference between Delano and Ennis' Hellblazer was the horror aspect - while Delano focused on a more subtle, psychological type of horror, Ennis did a much more upfront, visceral sort, which is basically his style. John wasn't out of character throughout Ennis' run, it was more of a different perspective than anything else.

Son Of Man, while not the most spectacular Hellblazer yarn out there, was pretty much just a fun story to read.

Good that they'll eventually collect the issue. Too bad they didn't toss Lucifer #50 into the mix though, this trade kind of ended midstride.

I just picked up Lucifer: Exodus, it collected issues 42-44 and 46-49, but no issue 45, is there a reason this issue was omitted?

There's nothing we can do, the Watchmen's going to be an action filled whodunnit piece of drivel, with Nite Owl killing Ozymandias in the end, because 'it's what Rorschach would have wanted'.

Of course none of the Endless can die, unless every sentient being in the universe ceases to exist for all eternity. After which Death herself would finally "die.'

Wasn't she the one that said something like, I will be there to turn the lights off and close up when its all over with?

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You can see her do that in the original Books of Magic miniseries.

Outside of fiction, it's bollocks. Without any empirical evidence, or some sort of demonstration through impartial, replicable tests, you don't really have anything substantial. The Ghost Hunter's view in Neil Gaiman's Books of Magic miniseries, pretty much sums up the reality behind magic.