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  1. Thuse speaketh the deluded nerdcase.

    You see no resemblance between his characters in From Hell, Sleepy Hollow, Cry Baby and Dead Man, and I'm deluded? The only examples I can think of offhand of the guy playing a different role are Fear and Loathing and Ed Wood.

     

    I can see the From Hell and Sleepy Hollow comparison, but the rest, I'm sorry, don't fit with the others at all. ESPECIALLY Cry Baby.

  2. Hannigan strikes me as being, and I say this in all seriousness, just a PINCH retarded. Every time I've seen her, she's seemed rather off kilter and not all that fully aware of her surroundings...which in and of itself is fine, but she does it in every single role she shows up for. So she's either a tremendously limited actor who excels at one particular and somewhat unusal "type," or she's a bit touched. You decide.

     

    And really, saying she belongs on here because someone brought up Johnny fucking Depp is...well, I don't know WHAT it is. But it's monstrous and ugly.

  3. On one of Michael Moore's old TV series, he got himself a big ol' pink van and packed it full of fun-lovin' homosexuals and followed Phelps around the country, trying to spread the message of...well, I'm not really sure. But it was hilarious.

  4. Oh, I'd agree that it doesn't seem to be consciously intended in a malicious way. If I thought it was, I'd be a lot more vehement in my criticisms of him as a writer, for sure (I know I've focused on the negative aspects of Ennis' work lately, but I should stress that, at his best, he's a great writer, who's written some of my favourite comics). It's still a significant problem with his work, though, and one which his tendency to awkwardly shoe-horn the issue into so many of his stories makes hard to ignore.

     

    Man, finally, someone is able to say what I can't. Ennis' take seems like a bad joke...for me, the Hawk & Dove by Miller seemed malicious. I'm not even sure why...I was just very taken aback by it.

  5. But therein lies the conundrum that is Ennis...I firmly believe he IS a, well, mook when it comes to ALL kinds of sexuality, but he's responsible for the most significant, and in my opinion, "real" female relationship with John in the HB universe.

     

    Custer and Tulip, on the other hand, seem much more stock and typical for the action genre he was trying to emulate with Preacher. It's mostly lust and adrenaline the entire time, which compliments the series, but reading it all wrap up I don't get the sense of "they'll live happily ever after TOGETHER" that Ennis I think wanted us to feel. Maybe they will, maybe they won't...it's not a sure thing.

     

    Ennis HAS written characters who are homosexual where they come across like it just "happens" to be that they're gay, so he doesn't seem hopeless...but I stand by that he's a bit of a "ooooh, icky!" boy when it comes to sex, period. He's presented plenty of straight characters as complete buffoons when it comes to sexuality, often WHILE they're having sex, or trying to.

  6. Mark, it just comes back to like I said...that's Ennis' work. You go in, you're getting action film archetypes cranked up to a ridiculous agree, that included. Does that make it "right?" No. But because that's the tone of the overwhelming bulk of his writings, it's something that's just there...the theme that stands out isn't just "gay bashing"...if it was ONLY that, it would seem far more glaring and malicious. Ennis seems to mock ANYTHING that isn't "manly" by his cliched action film mentality...gays, women, ultra-liberals/conservatives, the French. He lives and dies by the fictional "man's man" archetype. That's his tool, pardon the pun. Again, for me it's like watching the Die Hard films, or their ilk. I may not agree with certain sentiments, but I can be entertained by the overall nature of the stories...compound that with the fact that Ennis seems to take a perverse, mocking view of sexuality in general 99% of the time and very rarely does it come off as actually spiteful, to me. More like someone trying too hard to be "manly" than anything else.

     

    And again, like you said, that's ALWAYS been Ennis. With Miller, his newfound "gay-mocking" seems MORE glaring to me because it wasn't there before. Ennis seems to be more catering to the "classic" action film archetype, whereas Miller pulls it out of nowhere, and it frustrates me. Is it an unfair expectation? Maybe...but he didn't do it before...why now?

  7. Oh, very true. But at the same time, he's had very strong female characters (Elektra, Martha Washington) and zero of the veiled shots or attitude to homosexuals existing in Ennis' work, and many comics in general. Something seemed to happen as Sin City wore on...he seems more obsessed with the alpha, over-heterosexualized uber-male, and anything not along those lines is mocked or beat down or shunned or dominated.

  8. Personally, in a book like "Preacher", I found the homophobia to be self-mocking. It as if Ennis was saying, "Here's what your great American epics have to say about manliness! See how over-the-top and laughable it can seem?"

    I would almost stick to this line, if not for Ennis' other homophobic jabs.

     

    That's the thing...like you say, because that humor spills over to his other titles, I don't think that's the case. And shit, you'll never convince me that Ennis doesn't believe all the gung-ho, testosterone-packed Americana he spouted in Preacher. But, that's just what the series is. It, and pretty much anything Ennis has written, exists in the world of movies like Die Hard. You know what you're getting going in, for better or for worse, and Preacher was all of that to the nth degree. It's supposed to be the ultimate western/action flick.

     

    I've never read Dark Knight Strikes Again, so I can't comment on it. But, the reviews I've read state that it's some sort of farce. If this is true, wouldn't Miller be making an ironic statement with his homophobic references in that story?

    Actually, I haven't read anything new by Miller, so I'm don't know, has Miller gotten progessively more homophobic in his other work, or was it insulated within that one comic book?

     

    Some parts of it work brilliantly. It's obviously a farce...unfortunately, it's often a very hamfisted and obvious farce. At one point, for no reason at all, he portrays Hawk & Dove as a, for lack of a better term, duo of bitchy queens (I say that because that's really what it feels like Miller wants them to be seen). And it's just...there. Obviously, the superhero genre is one ripe for sexual parody and critique, but something about this little throwaway joke never sat right with me. The rest of Miller's work isn't necessarily homophobic as it is overbearingly masculine. And yes, I see the hypocrisy of saying that when I'm usually a fan of Ennis, but like I said, you know you're getting things along that line with Ennis going in. You know you're getting the amped up archetypes of Die Hard. Miller didn't always do that. The tone of DKSA comes out of nowhere, and for no real reason.

  9. Back on topic...a friend and both just re-read the entire series run after not having touched it for years, and we both found we loved it far, far more than we did when it first ended.  I agreed with most of the criticisms here when the series first wrapped up, and felt pretty unsatisfied with the whole thing.  But re-reading it...it was infinitely better than I recalled.  At it's core, it's just a damn fine pulp story.  I think people want it to be "deeper" or more meaningful than it actually is just because of the Veritgo tag.  Yeah, Ennis has his flaws, and storylines like "Salvation" are rather pointless (though even it had its moments), but I can't think of another comic that had as many punch-you-in-the-stomach moments as this one.  I think one of the blurbs on the trades even said, there isn't another comic more like watching a rip-roaring, high adventure movie, and that's exactly what I felt re-reading it.

     

     

    Oh, I agree that the main ideas of the story play out well....the ideas of honor, friendship, etc...but some of the other stuff, especially the religious stuff, is pretty juvenile, and the ending feels rushed.

     

    Reading it again, it really struck me that the honor and friendship part of it IS the main focus. The religious aspects are just window dressing...they're not meant to be the focus. In that context, re-reading the final arc suddenly seemed much more satisfying. The story is Cassidy and Custer...everything else is just a sideshow.

     

    Though the horse rustling flashback was pretty asinine. I skipped it after reading about 5 pages this go around.

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