Charlie K
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Post some shit that takes you right back, and I mean right back, in time.
I'll start. Many music videos from the 1980s take me right back to being a kid and spending hours watching MTV. So many videos do this - not the songs, but the videos. As soon as I see them I am 12 again. Example:
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Took me a bit to figure out what the weird teleporter thing was, too.
BTW the jets - if it's a Russian video don't they just have surplus Soviet jets laying around?
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Music video featuring this
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I aam wassted on liquor beer and weed...and am listening to Victorialand....so you tell me, what is going on with you? /wasted
lol at this and Avaunt's reponse.
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Pookah is pregnant!
Bili has a dog!
There was a revolution in Norway?
Avaunt made pumpkin soup?!
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Okay, these are excellent suggestions and give me a good plan. Is Hawkeye in trades yet? What about Saga?
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Charlie. My homeboys here can handle your comic needs infinitely better than me.
I can do the sentiment though.
You are great, 'n greatly missed. :)
And, in case you don't happen to look at other threads for a bit , but come back to this one, Pooka is Pregnant Bro!. Huzzay !
WHHATATTAAATTATTT???!!!
Are you the father? :D
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All right, what I like in comics. First of all, I love super heroes. When I read a comic, I want to read about super heroes. I am also a huge martial arts fan so I tend to gravitate to the super hero books with the most fighting. I've recently love love loved Ed Brubacker's take on Iron Fist, my favorite character. Also spotted the Daredevil trades by Bendis, that looks good, love that character.
Can I get links to synposes or images of Saga, Fatale, and these other titles we're discussing?
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I fell out of the habit of collecting my weekly pull back when I first started having kids, just because I had less time and, naturally, less money! So I haven't hardly bought comics for the past 6 years or more.
What have I missed?
Couple observations off the top of my head:
-I struggle to find the comics I like and don't want to spend the time or money to read something only to find I don't like it. I know what I like, style, tone and characters, but struggle to *find* it. I guess that's why you need comic book friends, right? To share info.
-Comics are too expensive and too short. Single issues are too short and it feels like trades are long enough but a bit expensive. Why haven't we solved this problem yet, releasing comics in longer form, reasonably priced formats?
-Is everyone mad at DC over this most recent whatsis, resetting of the characters into the first 52 or what do you call it?
-How's Vertigo?
-How's Marvel?
-I seem to have a difficult time finding and following the writers and artists I like. Why isn't the industry more consistent this way, in helping me navigate this? For regular print books, when I fidn a writer I like, I go read all his stuff. I try to do this on comics but it seems they spread the good writers too thin or on too many projects and don't do enough to promote the up and comers.
Okay, so a bit of a ramble but... hello. What's going on?
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After patiently waiting I have read 47 Ronin straight through. Wow!! They say to know this story is to know Japan, but I'd add that knowing THIS adaptation of it is to know fine comic book story telling. Richardson & Sakai are in perfect balance all the way from start to finish. If this doesn't win some Eisners I will be floored. If you love samurai, read the samurai tale above all others, 47 Ronin. The only minor quibble I have is this might have been better released as a graphic novel rather than 5 (nearly) monthly issues. 5/5
I was looking at that in the store, too, and was really impressed. But agree it should have come out as one trade.
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BTW my suggestions are liberal/progressive Catholic, modern Lutheran, yes Baptist or Methodist, Episcopalean as long as they aren't way out on the friges of theology, modern Presbytereanism.
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Yeah! IF i say IF now, boy,...pay attention when I'm talking, son. ...if I were to go to a church, I want old school. I'm talking wood pews, hymnals and bibles in the seats, robed choirs, intelligent and entertaining yet not pandering sermons,an engaged, welcoming & non-judgmental congregation, all run by clergy that isn't making money like a CEO and maybe even hear a joyful noise unto the Lord. Bapist I suppose? haha
I've not heard of that book. Mostly I've read Thich Nhat Hahn (who I suggest for EVERYONE), The Dalai Lama...those fellows. But I'm always open to new stuff. I'll check it out.
Hallelujiah! Amen! Preach on, brother!
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Shawn: Man, there are some beautiful old churches populated by aging congreations dwindling in number while these megachurches pack 'em in. I love those old churches, man.
Read a great book about Buddhism recently. Ever heard of The New Buddhism by David Brazier?
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Well, it is all good, Shawn. We might not be Christians per se, but we would have been mates with the bloke by all accounts, he wasn't the worst human that got misquoted ever. Plus there is that whole water to wine thing.
I think it is slightly sad though when people think, if even only unconsciously, only their cult/culture/people have virtue, and their only way of admiring someone else is to drape their cloak over the person.
Shawn, you weak minded fool! They're using an old Dutch Lutheran mind trick on you! By praising you for being Christ-like they want you to join them in their Jesusness. Trust me, I know - I'm one of them *ominous music*.
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Josh, you have the patience of a saint to wade through that crap! Wow!
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Geez, you New Zealanders have a lot of fun. This never happens in the U.S. Oh, sure, a lot of people have bands, but backyard sing alongs of songs everyone knows? No way.
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I don't know but I am saying a prayer for you! I've got a couple close friends who are sober and they have basically taught me that, at least in their view, you can't really help anyone get sober. They have to do it themselves, usually after they hit the absolute bottom in life. So, pardon the harsh language, but maybe your intervention and offer of weed won't be what does it for your friend; maybe nothing can, or maybe he'll find himself selling his body to a creepy old man in a public restroom or sitting in jail and that will be what gets him to take control. Also, AA and NA and the like seem creepy and cult like to outsiders but sometimes that's what it takes to save someone's life. Anyway good luck and God bless.
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Josh: amazing undertaking. As you may know I'm a devout Christian (albeit a progressive, left wing one) and i wouldn't be able to stand to read those.
Incer! I re-read the Hobbit every couple years and it's like visiting with a favorite relative.
So, speaking of re-reading, I am re-reading one of the greatest books you never heard of, The Sojourner, from Marjorie Kinnan Rawlings. It's about the interior life of a farmer whose thoughts and emotions run deep but who is never able to articulate what he's thinking or feeling, and who perserveres working his family's land and raising his own family despite almost everyone around him generally trying to make him miserable. That's really not doing justice to how great this book is in its use of language, character and plot. My uncle, who turned me on to the book, always refer to is as "one of the best books you never heard of" because until he dusted it off I'd never heard of it either nor talked to anyone who'd ever read it. Wonderful stuff and a good book to re-read as I settle into the long nights of winter.
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All right, so one of the dudes mentioned above is someone called Ben Lerner, who has published 12 (TWELVE!) books of poetry and founded an arts magazine. Here's one of his, at random. I kind of like it:
http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/238712
Mad Lib Elegy
By Ben Lerner
There are starving children left on your plate.
There are injuries without brains.
Migrant workers spend 23 hours a day
removing tiny seeds from mixtures
they cannot afford to smoke
and cannot afford not to smoke.
Entire nations are ignorant of the basic facts
of hair removal and therefore resent
our efforts to depilate unsightly problem areas.
Imprisonment increases life expectancy.
Finish your children. Adopt an injury.
‘I'm going to my car. When I get back,
I'm shooting everybody.'
[line omitted in memory of_______]
70% of pound animals will be euthanized.
94% of pound animals would be euthanized
if given the choice. The mind may be trained
to relieve itself on paper. A pill
for your safety, a pill for her pleasure.
Neighbors are bothered by loud laughter
but not by loud weeping.
Massively multiplayer zombie-infection web-games
are all the rage among lifers.
The world is a rare case of selective asymmetry.
The capitol is redolent of burnt monk.
‘I'm going to my car. When I get back
I'm shooting everybody.'
[line omitted in memory of _______]
There are two kinds of people in the world:
those that condemn parking lots as monstrosities,
‘the ruines of a broken World,' and those
that respond to their majesty emotionally.
70% of the planet is covered in parking lots.
94% of a man's body is parking lot.
Particles of parking lot have been discovered
in the permanent shadows of the moon.
There is terror in sublimity.
If Americans experience sublimity
the terrorists have won.
‘I'm going to my car. When I get back
I'm shooting everybody.'
[line omitted in memory of _______]
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From the site:
Ranging from sonnets to extended, collage-based prose poems, Lerner’s work often uses scientific structures to explore the relationship between language, form, and movement. Noting his use of “arresting lines that are comical, anxious and hauntingly true,” Boston Review critic Craig Morgan Teicher described Lerner’s aim in Angle of Yaw to “juxtapose discordant elements of noise such that their collective racket cancels each component out, leaving behind a language purged by negation—refreshed, defiant, and wholly self-aware.”
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Christian, you're making some good points - but you also just validated me, too. You said:
So, you have to dig to find out who's writing poetry today. And, maybe you have to spend some money to find out too.
Which is why I titled this thread (before it merged) "we have to talk about poetry." My point all along is we need to work (at least a little) to make poetry as relevant in our lives as it was in the lives of previous generations. Dude, poets inspired Latin American revolutions. Try finding a poet with any kind of political or social impact today.
BTW I tried to track down specific Rexroth tomes in our shared library system. No dice, just collected works. So, you're right - spend some money. And after I read them, I am going to donate them to the library, dammit.
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Good points, Christian. I'm finding it difficult to quantify my statements. But tell me this, name a poet that has published in the last, say 5 years, whose stuff you like. Most likely, nothing comes to mind - all your favorite poets (and mine) are from past decades. But, ask someone at the Lit. department of a university to do the same, they'll name you five. Here, here is the latest issue of The Paris Review.
http://www.theparisreview.org/current-issue
"Poems by Ben Lerner, Linda Pastan, Devin Johnston, Yasiin Bey, Geoffrey Hill, Regan Good, Joshua Mehigan, and Steven Cramer."
Do you know ANY of those poets? They might be good but I do not know them. This is a problem.
I guess another thing I was getting at is I like plain language poetry in which I do not have to work too hard. In the Rexroth example, the hardest part is figuring out what he means by:
If I go into my brain
And set fire to you sweet nipples,
To the tendons beneath your knees,
I can see far before me.
It is empty there where I look,
But at least it is lighted.
But it's a struggle I feel like making and I'm comfortable not having to figure it out because the whole poem doesn't depend on it - it's a very accessible poem. I think what he means by the above is when he thinks about his erotic and emotional love for the woman it gives him a perspective on life. It may not all make sense, but it's all worth it because she's in his world.
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So what kind of songs do New Zealanders sing around the fire (was there a fire?) from the 50s and 60s? Stuff I would recognize, like old rock, or something more local?
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I didn't realize there was this:
http://hellblazer.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9442
When "a spot of poetry" already exists in the Culture Bunker.
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Because I think poetry is dying a long, slow, painful death in world letters. For two reasons:
-people don't read as much in general, they certainly don't read poetry
-poetry has become over-academicized; the poetry being produced is only appreciated by academics and other poets
I think you're wrong. I think that in the history of human existance, poetry has never been as much produced, consumed and enjoyed as it is now, nor by so MANY.
Your first reasion is just plain wrong. There are more literate persons alive today than during the previous 6000 years of human existance, and they read lots and lots and lots.
The second reason is only true if you exclude the vast majority of poetry produced when coupled with music. Which I take umbrage to. I've had SO many discussions over the years about music lyrics, their meaning, the wordplay, interpretation etc. And some of the lyrics are genuinely profound stuff. If all you think of as poetry is the stuff published in poetry books you might be closer to making a point, but even then I don't think the statistics support your claim.
BUT that's not to say that I don't support this:
Read more poerty. And tell others.Because I do. I really do.
I really can't think of a counter argument to this beyond:
-There are more literate people alive today, and more books produced, but I wonder if books are read as much, or if there's a huge percentage of the reading public that buys books but never finish them
-I suspect more "pop" books are read these days than literary ones; I don't have a statistic to back me up but I'll look
-I argue much less poetry is *read*; I agree music is poetry but here I am arguing for the written word
-I may be the last person to rightfully stick up for poetry since I dislike a great deal of it
And then suddenly you were in the past.
in Bring the Noise
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Funny. Where were you? What was on the stereo? What