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Yeah, but I don't think any of you guys are ASHAMED to hate the things you do.
Bloody right I'm not; I 'fessed up to that already a page or two back.
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Should I just post the chapter on Hellblazer from my (unpublished) book on pretentious adult comics here?
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Didn't you admit to being a hater a few days ago?
Pretty repulsive term that, when you think about it: "hater". The underpinning argument seems to be that any criticism of anything the one who feels that they're being hated has said or done (up to and including, breaking an underaged fan's jaw because she refused to fellate him) is motivated purely by jealousy and so can be dismissed as irrelevant and insignificant.
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Good Artists are naturally attracted to comics, but we're stuck with pretty average writers.
I'm not letting that one go: Alan Moore, Pat Mills, John Wagner, Neil Gaiman, Peter Milligan, Grant Morrison, Alan Grant, Jack Kirby, Howard Chaykin, Michael Moorcock, Alfred Bester and quite a few more who I can't be arsed to be list are rather better than average writers.
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The Mists of Avalon, by Marion Zimmer Bradley. It's quite entertaining. 8-)
I've had a copy of that in my to read pile for the best part of a decade now...
Started The manticore by Robertson Davies last night. Fine stuff.
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Gotta question here. Are books by Chuck Palahniuk worth picking up?
Hell yes. Fight Club is stunning; it craps all over the movie. His other books aren't as good, but Lullaby, Choke and Survivor are all worth reading.
Invisible Monsters isn't, though. Akhi should avoid that one.
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I think that is how genius is defined in practice, though, and in that respect it's a lot easier to quantify than the other notion, which is purely abstract.
Nope - they're two equally-valid but separate definitions of the word. That definition is certainly more quantifiable and easier to define, but it's also far removed from what we were talking about here.
Perhaps we should just assume that any writers or artists who can't prove themselves to be in possession of a tutelary spirit don't make it?
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You're talking about "genius" in the academic sense (an IQ of over 140, yes?), which is totally unrelated to the idea of creative genius. Different things.
I think that is how genius is defined in practice, though, and in that respect it's a lot easier to quantify than the other notion, which is purely abstract.
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Best Supporting Actor. He got a BAFTA and a Golden Globe in the same category, too.
The other 3 Oscars which went to Unforgiven were to Eastwood for Best Director (which I reckon he thoroughly deserved), Joel Cox for Best Film Editing, and the film as a whole for Best Picture. That's it. Eastwood didn't actually get a single major award for his acting in the film (which, while I think he plays the part perfectly well - I certainly can't imagine anyone better-suited to it - is probably fair).
Fair enough: I thought he'd been given a best actor gong for it, which would have been bollocks, but as it appears he didn't then it's of no matter.
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Does anyone have any opinions to offer about Alan Moore's novel Voice of the Fire?
The first story might be hard going but the rest of it is a breeze.
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Everything about the film except Clint Eastwood is pretty decent, but who got the sodding Oscar for it?
Well, Gene Hackman, for a start.
He did?
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Who you callin a chimp pardner?
He's got a nerve claiming that there's none of that evolution business going on, doesn't he? Probably got a chip on his shoulder about being called the missing link.
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Chimps are apes, not monkeys, though: no tails.
Don't care, don't like them. Of course I would never want any harm to come to any of them but I saw a program once about a chimp. He walked like a man and only liked human woman. He smoked cigars and wore clothes. Ugh, I hated it.
Maybe this should be in an irrational fears thread!
Apparently the chimp who played Cheetah was queer for Johnny Weismuller.
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Tombstone I like a lot, but I'm not having Unforgiven: it's the best bits from a bunch of Eastwood's '70s westerns folded around a fat wad of pomposity and bullshit.
I somehow managed to miss this spectacular outburst of Wrong yesterday, so I'm just going to quickly point and laugh now. Because really, it wouldn't be a taste-related thread unless I massively disagreed with dogpoet about something...
Hehhe.
I'm definitely with Mark on this one. Nearly everything about Unforgiven is awesomeness and it's one of my most fondly remembered Gene Hackman performances (saying a lot cos I love the guy).
Everything about the film except Clint Eastwood is pretty decent, but who got the sodding Oscar for it?
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Oh, I agree with that Dog Poet.
I liked the book a lot more, and wasn't particularly impressed with the movie.
The book isn't my favourite of P.K. Dick's anyway though.
The sex with androids stuff was interesting, Roy Batty was a good character.
I liked the "police station" part of the book!
I think they were trying to simplify it a bit so it'd actually work as a thriller, which isn't the main thrust of the book. They actually did a pretty decent of that, imo. It is a pity some of the stuff that got dumped, but it's also surprising how much is left: there's the cultism about animals in there, even without the religion it derives from.
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I hate monkeys. Chimps are the worst. I love every other animal on this earth but chimps creep me out.
Chimps are apes, not monkeys, though: no tails.
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Jay has everyone on his ignore list. He only likes to talk to himself.
I agree with you, Josh. The book is far better. The movie removed the best part of the book too.
Bah! The book was alright, but the movie was great. It removed one of the dumbest parts of the book (the police station...Christian knows what I'm talking about...we discussed this on the phone). I'll agree that the female replicants (except Rachael) were underused, Roy Batty is facinating. He's both a Christ figure and a Lucifer figure! Collect them all!
Not that I can actually read Christian's post or anything! The only one not on my ignore list is Wolvy!
The film works fine: there's no way in hell they could have have made the book as it was written work on film without a shitload of obtrusive infodumping anyway, so it'll do.
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Yes, it is. And I'm almost out of teens so I'm not worrying too much.
I saw him once watching Charlie and the Chocolate Factory for three consecutive times.
And exactly what were you doing watching Michael Jackson watch Charlie and the Chocolate Factory five consecutive times?
I lived in Bahrain for a while, awesome food.
Waiting to see if he'd masturbate so it could be found out whether or not skin bleaching products have left chemical burns on his schlong?
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What are the things you've always hated, yet always pretended to like just to avoid redicule and what not?
Women....They're icky!
That's part of the fun, Christian.
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When I hate something, I'm open about it.
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I was forgetting Campbell, Carey and Grist: I dunno about Ennis though, he's pretty much a one trick pony.
As for Luis:
Right. So the degree of esteem Gaiman is held in by a number of literary critics (may of who, as mark says, would probably shit blood if you accused them of reading comics) and sunday supplement reviewers and staff writers, the respect Alan Moore has earned from these same people on his own terms, and the growing number of postmodern theorists who all but worship Grant Morrison's work don't count then?
Wrongo. That isn't the people I mentioned, that's people like Chuck Dixon and Beau Smith, the sort of relentlessly uninspired but dully competent middleground of comics writers.
You might consider, btw, the dismissive attitude towards television in the light of the slightly grandiose claims you're making for literature. Any distinction between "high" and "low" art is horseshit, as anybody who could ever take populist hacks like Shakespeare or Dickens seriously would be well advised to admit.
Yes, Jack Kirby. The single most influential artist ever to work in his chosen medium. (Not Captain America though: that was Joe Simon's character.)