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So Smallville never happened?

No.

 

As someone on facebook pointed out Guggenheim has a rep for trolling when it comes to the Arrow fanbase. This is a prime example of the trolling.

I hope he isn't. I like this.

Does Matt still play as John?

http://variety.com/2...ity-1201492462/

Noice?

Going back to the topic..

 

 

I just want to point out

 

Constanteen acts like Harry Dresden. I do not like both of them.

 

If John is going to interact with mainstream DC, it will better be like the one from Injustice.

 

Ditto. Funny,we dont have any preview panels for it yet save for two covers

Are you talking about that Ming Doyle Constantine? If so..

It's the Ray Fawkes one that I was comparing with Dresden.

Going back to the topic..

I just want to point out

Constanteen acts like Harry Dresden. I do not like both of them.

If John is going to interact with mainstream DC, it will better be like the one from Injustice.

just watched film. it was ok 0/10

I hope for more John/Batman interactions in the future T_T

 

aaand next time john will be met with a punch in the face...at least in that universe

 

 

still though,they had great chemistry and work damn well together. constantine+batman vs anyone else= totally fuck'd

and here I thought Guy Gardner had it rough with Bats.

i would love to see how gardner would react at john

@jaynova

Oh geez! Forgive me for being off-topic, but I also love the Mountain Goats!

Jason-Yeah, I guess that's why Ennis' John sounded like a 20-something, considering Ennis was like 21 when writing Hellblazer. Compared to the older-seeming Delano John being under 40.

 

I think Lady Constantine certainly has a point as to why it was harder to write John as an aging character, nearly at 60. It would have required the character to chance, and basically after the Paul Jenkins run, John stopped changing. He was aging in real life, but his characterization remained pretty consistent. It was the template Constantine written by Mike Carey, based on Ennis' characterization, but updated a bit.

Of course, we saw some changes with Azzarello and Milligan, but those were more just from bad interpretations of the character, rather than a real attempt to see John grow as a character, like under Jenkins.

Milligan regressed the character.

 

Alan Moore liked Azzarello's take, I assume, due to Azzarello wanting to take John back to basics. The whole mystery man intruding in others' lives, and often not for the better. That was Constantine under Moore.

The issue there is that when Moore was writing John, he was a supporting character in another character's book. It's hard to keep that sort of character going when they have their own title, which requires characterization and background.

It also gets hard to do after the book has been running for over 100 issues, and readers already know the background of this character. The character may seem dark and mysterious to strangers, but the readers just see it as poor characterization.

Plus, it is surprising that Moore liked Azzarello's version, considering that Azzarello's version was actually immoral. Moore's John was the most heroic incarnation of the character. Something we rarely saw of John during the Hellblazer run, where we thought of him as an anti-hero. Yes, he did good things. Yes, at times he showed heroic sides. But, for the most part, he was amoral. Under Moore, we saw John actually willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good and such.

So, Azzarello's version is really the furthest removed from Moore's version, even though Azzarello did sort of go "back to basics".

I don't really view John as an amoral bastard. I thought he was just some guy with bad luck struggling to keep shit together, and I wanted him that way.

I saw some fangirl write about Keanustantine's fanfiction-al biography on a wiki. They put him in as a character in their made up story lore, and it bothered me how this character sounds like some kind of Supernatural OC with the name 'John Constantine'.

Also, all of it was made up. John had powers?

why couldn't john just live somewhere where wearing a suit and coat would make sense?

like lets say... england?

but he isn't in england anymore...

maybe new york would work, though i've never been there

why couldn't john just live somewhere where wearing a suit and coat would make sense?

I think Nick and John should just drop everything and fuck.

 

would probably solve half their problems.nick so desperately wants johnny to take him back .he kept on making offers to join the dark side too many times[cannon]

My yaoi senses are tingling.

I think Nick and John should just drop everything and fuck.

I want to make a mini fan comic book about DC shite.

azzarello missed the essence of what made john human and tried to make him come off as some sort of sociopath, so he loses points. i liked hard time and freezes over though.

jamie delano is obviously one of everyone's favs.

alan moore, the originator <3

garth ennis i enjoyed for the most part , just reread the "confessional " story and i'll be damned if that isn't brilliant.

mike carey's was pretty awesome.

 

and i'll admit, i agree with your thoughts on keanusteen. that movie was also what got me into the character.

 

 

new 52 can sod off.

 

yes,sociopath was the word.that particular john,i found myself wanting to harm

 

Yeeeah that John was creepy as fuck. Like him just walking into a bingo night with some prostitute he found on the block and being a giant creepy prick on purpose was odd as shit.

And then the whole thing with Manor was even more underhanded even for John. I compare this John with Frank Miller's "Goddamn" Batman.

True. I can't believe Alan Moore thought this was the best Constantine.

Azzarello just doesn't know when to stop writing Joker.

The flash = LUV

 

ironically,i never liked the comic and the only one i even gave half a damn about was kid flash/impulse and that was from watching that damn young justice cartoon which was da shit

I found Zatanna as a teenager disturbing..

They haven't even made a Justice League movie, and they're already planning on this??

I saw some fangirl write about Keanustantine's fanfiction-al biography on a wiki. They put him in as a character in their made up story lore, and it bothered me how this character sounds like some kind of Supernatural OC with the name 'John Constantine'.

To be honest, I kind of want to see more of John interfering with mainstream forces of the DCu.

 

It's awesome to see John fighting off Demons, both metaphorically and real. But it just feels like a really depressing Supernatural where he only fights the same thing over and over. I know that sounds dumb but it's just imo.

 

 

I feel like there's just more he could fight. It was interesting how John knew about the Crisis on Infinite Earths. Like, how could he have known something like that when that crossover storyline only involved cosmic forces and not the supernatural?

 

I'm not saying he should be Reed Richards. I think mysticism could be involved with the cosmos somehow.

 

It has to be done in a natural manner like the pre-Vertigo years (85-92). Otherwise it'll come out like The New 52 and Search for Swamp Thing in terms of forced and hackneyed

 

Yeah! Also, I have this fantasy where there's this big storyline that involves the crisis, cosmos, mystics, and John.

 

Almost everyone in DC is involved. It's going to be in a Venture Bros-like style, and this is the theme song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WblP-uRQ_U&index=2&list=PLAA0F85E2694C79F4

Of course, from the Venture Bros. ost

 

I'm not sure why I needed to share this, but I think I should have. Does this idea sound cringy to you?

 

nah,it's pure awesome

 

Haha thanks ;)

 

Though, if I wanted a story that involves John Constantine consulting with superheroes I want Twilight of the Superheroes.

 

Why did Alan Moore never have it done???

 

Because DC began pissing him off

rofl yeah, I kinda wished Moore would come back to DC. His stories are more original than the ones today.

an anime is what it needs! the shit i've seen in anime! they could outright do a hellblazer anime and pull it off .seriously. but yeadh i agree there will be some more japanese culture...and john would be less subtle with his bisexual tendencies.a LOT of anime have blink-and-you-might-miss gay moments with characters of both genders and flirting with the same sex and nobody bats an eye! americans need to learn to do this! there are lgbt characters all over anime yet no one in japan seems to make a big deal.usually the quality of anime is what's embraced and a lil' ship teasin' from the same sex (see yaoi and yuri) is usually welcomed.

 

hellbazer should have an anime stand alone

 

Well, if weaboos ever pit him against Lelouch or Light. That's silly. They're way out of his league. >:D

He will be alright...just ride that synchronicity wave the fuck outta dodge and don't look back

I think his laughing magician ability is overrated. His conartistry skills is what's more impressive. He's managed to outwit supreme beings and managed to kill one. He's always prepared, like the one time when Superman tried to attack John.

writers based this guy on john constantine

http://dcanimated.wi...com/wiki/Wizard

I'm Matt

I'm hoping BBC America picks it up.

I think they would feel icky when they found out how much anti-government Hellblazer is with Britain.