A. Heathen
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Matador - learn from Tears in Rain about how to be angry with closed-mindedness around these parts, and don't tell John how to run this forum.
Your posts have amounted to smug boasting about seeing the film,
claims of knowing someone involved in the production,
and a general lack of participation in discussions other than ill-conceived jibes.
TiR tells us more about the film in one post than you ever have.
Which is why "he"(?) is entitled to a meltdown more than you are.
The again, you're probably the same person ... you know how clever those industry plants are.
Good luck with your career in Hollywood.
Doing a bit of what Bill Hicks referred to as "sucking satan's cock".
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In his mind, he's already written that review a thousand times.
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If more than one answer matches, please take the best option.
For example, I have voted for the fifth option because I consider myself a fan of Hellblazer and I quite like Keanu Reeves.
Rogan, if John gave you mod rights here, can you make it pinned to the top ?
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To be fair, TearsInRain has one valid point: We ARE suffering from the classical psychological fault of perceiving what we want to perceive. But then again, this is born of bitterness...
I would wish that the "disagreements" could take more civil forms though. After all, we're mostly a nice bunch here when it comes to anything else...
Well, some people need to take part in the forum rather than stripmining the comic for ideas and coming here to get defensive. Hey, Warners, feel free to send some positive Constantine-reviewers this way as long as they are prepared to find out more about the comic, or (mythical beast alert) they are already fans of the comic who want to enthuse about the film.
Oh this whole "you hate our film" nonsense is as wide of the mark as Christian's misreading of the CBR post. There are around seventy members here, and less than twenty regulars who voted in the following polls.
But look the majority are prepared to see it, especially if it is R rather than PG13.
OCTOBER 12th
I am getting more likely to see this film [ 4 ]
I am getting less likely to see this film [ 2 ]
PG13 bad, four legs good [ 3 ]
"I [HEART] the gr8 Shia, thiz flm 'll ROXXX !" OR "I am a Keanu fan, and so will see the film at least seven times, but they shouldn't have done that to Hellblazer" [ 2 ]
Hi, my name's Tom, I would like to introduce you to my eye gouging service [ 5 ]
They made a film of Constantine ? Those BASTARDS ! [ 3 ]
I am a Warner Bros employee seeking to influence this poll in favor (sic) of the film and I will bring the preview over to London in ten days' time [ 0 ]
http://hellblazer.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=122
Out of 15 people who expressed a lack of taste, only one (almost certainly Tom) said they will not watch the film, one other said only on bootleg.
OCTOBER 16th
I am getting more likely to see this film [ 6 ]
I am getting less likely to see this film [ 3 ]
PG13 NO! R maybe [ 5 ]
"I [HEART] the gr8 Shia, thiz flm 'll ROXXX !" OR "I am a Keanu fan, and so will see the film at least seven times, but they shouldn't have done that to Hellblazer" [ 2 ]
They made a film of Constantine ? I have been in a coma [ 3 ]
OCTOBER 19th
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Why is it anytime someone comes on here and says the film is good people assume they;re a PLANT working for the studio but when one idiot quotes erroneous SHIT - and this is because I've seen the GD film -- you all jump onboard and toast the guy as the soothsayer of all truth???
Why is it anytime someone comes on here and says the film is bad
you assume they are speaking for all of us ?
I'd guess it's part of the lowest common denominator mentality that rules Hollywood.
Tom's been pretty consistent all along, he's not giving it a chance because of irredeemable differences between it and the book that (and please pay attention to this bit) some of us have been following for 200 months - over fifteen years.
Forgive us for having a different attachment to this than someone unbastardising it for a movie. I look forward to "adverse" publicity campaigns to hype the film based on what's in the comic: "KEANU'S NEW FILM BASED ON SICK DEVIL-WORSHIP COMIC !" "DOG SEX WITH HUMANS A RECURRING THEME!"
Oh, and look, people other than yourself have corrected those errors in the CBR article. Final chance for Warners to shut up "everyone's" "erroneous" complaints by showing the preview at the London Comic festival.
Other than yourself (when you're in a better mood), and Frank Capello a couple of years ago, and whatever went on behind the scenes with McMahon and the producers, no-one connected to the film has bothered engaging in discussions about the genuine criticisms beyond Tom's comments above.
But why even bother appeasing the comics fans?
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Anyone wishing to get up for 9.30 on saturday morning for the purposes of unloading comic boxes will be looked up favourably. etc.
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An evil half-human half-bird thing but with its head turned towards you because
IT SEES YOU !
(Nice work as ever, Tim)
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I wish I'd jotted down Julian Cope's comment last night at the talk about his new book The Megalithic European, but it was something like "People ask me why a rock and roller should be looking at all this stuff, but it's old and megalithic ... like Keith Richards. What could be more rock ?"
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And let's hope warners have the good sense to make a grown up version for the DVD release.
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Well, I've told them I am not playing, so if people don't mind a two hour break near a decent pub that will be showing the game, we are back on to a one o'clock start at the Royal National.
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Whut? You mean you'll be buying the awful Hellblazer Collection?
That's not what I mean, since it is not what I said.
If I were to buy either of them it would not be the one that bolsters the sales of the special edition that's sole purpose is to pander to the movie.
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You forgot Sunday comic mart thing.
As I may have to play football the tour may not start until 2pm. Is that okay with you all?
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http://members.aol.com/comicsalmanack/flier.doc
Can anyone who is going to be in London this week (or close to London) please print out some copies of this (double sided A4) and distribute them.
Not sure why we need to do Guerrilla Marketing for an event this size, but it seems we do.
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I'm looking forward to Mike Carey's "Barker" v.much.
For no apparent reason, I expect a Carnivale vibe off it.
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I'll be getting the movie adaptation in trade format only.
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I'm concerned about the lack of "external" publicity.
No fliers and as far as I have seen the only TV or press publicity is Ross mentioning it.
We shall see what Time Out has to say tomorrow.
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Morrison yes, Ross asking questions on video.
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I've never heard Savage maligned ... !
Okay I have.
Blues excelled themselves against a very good Man Utd to stop them getting many chances - most pleasing was Nistelrooy's shot saved by the legs of Maik Taylor from a couple of feet out. Heskey and Yorke and Dunn look to be gelling, Gray and Johnson on the wings - Gronkjaer = VERY disappointing.
Once again, Savage gets booked - reasonably justified, but the ref demonstrated "persistent foul play" by pointing to all the previously unpunished tackles.
Meanwhile, Keane, Ferdinand and Smith all kick out at Blues players and get nothing in the way of cards. Keane especially since he was much worse than Savage in the nasty stakes.
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Compare this with Animal Man or Swamp Thing, do you think there's any fans who'd really say that anything after Grant Morrison left Animal Man came close to Morrison's run? Or, anything from Wheeler, Collins, Millar can compete with the original issues?
Pete Milligan's Animal is much better than (if not "as good as") Grant Morrison's pound for pound, but probably would not have sustained that over a similar run. And several Morrison issues were unbeatable.
Technically, the series of Swamp Thing you are citing was shite on toast until Moore took over, but I am just being Pedantor.
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I have been reminded that there was a top quality moment during the Azerbaijan-England match last week.
Paul Robinson: man of the match despite touching the ball approximately twice.
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Modified poll, bottom choice from previous round removed (it failed to out Warners people anyway) and top choice disqualified because there can be only one Tom.
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I doubt anyone will be interested in this, but Alien v Predator is released next weekend.
Otherwise, on Sunday:
Silver Rocket, Monotreme Records and Jonson Family proudly present:'An All Day Gig'...
DATE: Sunday 24th October, 2004
VENUE: The Rhythm Factory, 16-18, Whitechapel Rd, London, E1
TIME: 3pm-11pm - £7 (advance)/£8 (on the day)
Appearing are:
65daysofstatic:
With loads of airplay by Peel, Lamacq and even Zane Lowe their debut album 'The Fall Of Math' is also getting excellent reviews in ORGAN, Kerrang! The Wire, Rock Sound, and a host of other mags. They have been described as Squarepusher meets Mogwai, or the Aphex Twin with guitar, but that doesn't do their innovative (some say revolutionary) sound full justice. Thier live shows are viciously euphoric, frenetic, overwhelming, bordering on chaos and really, really loud.
Jason and the Astronauts:
South coast dwelling post hardcore band - unpredictably tuneful, noisy
and clean limbed.
Cove:
Taking the POWER trio as their motto, driving rhythms slashing guitars super rock riffing and a
Shellac worthy sense of timing.
Help She Can't Swim:
Fantastic lo-fi girl fronted hyperactive indie rock, think Bikini Kill/Huggy Bear crossed with Sonic Youth,
Pretty Girls make Graves and Gravy Train.
Spraydog:
Long time Peel faves making well loved indie rock, like Dinosaur Jr, My Bloody Valentine, the Delgados and Sonic Youth.
Charlottefield:
Fat Cat/Jonson family's best singles of recent times have come from this collision of Captain Beefheart rhythms, The Fall's sensibilities and Fugazi's sonics.
The Edmund Fitzgerald:
Highly intellectual but lovable math rock from oxford, it's a mystery to all how they manage their superb timings.
Phil Collins 3:
Imagine the Nation of Ulysses wearing crazy costumes playing the beginners guide to melt banana. Now you're half way to the eccentric genius of the PC3.
Ship's a Going Down:
Post-rock with angular guitars in the style of Slint and Billy Mahonie mixed with a touch of Godspeed beauty...
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I know that some of you kids read the super-heroey comics like they were going out of fashion (I wish they were!) but who is reading the most excellent "Monolith" by Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti (QV the superb 21 Down) and Phil Winslade (Nevada, Goddess) ?
It's set in New York of the thirties and now, a woman finds she has "inherited" an old house that just happens to have a 1930s golem bricked up in the basement. This sets her off on a new life, away from her drugs and prostitution - to the annoyance of the pimps and pushers.
The golem, or Monolith, was created by locals to rid them of the Mob back in the thirties. Phil Winslade's depiction of NYC is damnedly beautiful. The Monolith may look vaguely like the Hulk, but he moves with a grace - can you imagine how Winslade's art conveys that ? It does. I'm telling you. Actually, you know this story contains several elements that are missing from the current Swamp Thing run.
Of course, when the Monolith is freed, he has to continue protecting her and her friends, and as he learns more about the modern world, he becomes more subtle in his methods - shame about the lack of head-popping gangsters !
In the most recently ended arc - issues 6 - 8 with guest artist Tom Coker - Monolith receives a lesson from Bat Man (just for the kids). The writing is so intricately poised and understated, that Bat Man ends up being Commissioner Gordon (back in the days when he WAS the Gotham Police) to Monolith's "vigilante". And Black Canary gets to take the piss out of Bat Man.
It's pitched at the end of the DCU where people's thoughts start turning to Vertigo or girls ... or boys.
Tomorrow night
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I propose we all go to a cyber cafe and post our thoughts on the film ...
Then again, on Sunday, when we are sober, how about we lay a wreath to John Constantine on the doors of Warners' London office ?