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But Doctor Who has no canon to define, as any fule kno.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by that sentence anyway, mind - especially the random aside about Frobisher and RTD, which doesn't seem to have much to do with my original post to which you were responding. Care to explain? I don't often agree with you about Doctor Who, it seems, but I'm still interested in hearing your opinions...

Just pointing out the grand hypocracy of psychophants and business decisions

Ouchie. I think the problem with this movie is that it's not really about anything or anyone. Some of the scenarios Batman devised to incapacitate the League are ridiculously overwrought even by comic book billionaire mastermind standards. Further the villains remind me of the JL animated characters that were trotted out by Timm and McDuffie because (they claim in the commentaries) DC gave them free access to the toy chest of obscure and forgotten heroes for that show. It's not even about Vandal Savage, who comes off as a bit of a doofus after his many stressful lifetimes, and in the wake of the JL episode "Hereafter" it's really hard to buy his portrayal, even though that shouldn't matter. It's not about Batman because they all know he's a paranoid loner and the decision to keep trusting him at the end of a standalone movie is a foregone conclusion. Trying to dangle that as a dramatic conflict is preposterous in light of all the discussions that have already been had about whether other versions of the character should keep kryptonite in his utility belt and whether it would be useful anyway. So I guess you can look at it as an unfulfilling set of vignettes about the League with a weak unifying plotline but there are still gaffes. I would rather see Hal wield the ring than John or Kyle (jury's out on Guy) but he's supposed to be a slice of white bread, and not Nathan Fillion. Claudia Black made a good Cheetah though.

I don't think you need to worry about any of the problems with this movie contaminating TDKRe. I happen to like Kevin Conroy but he's overrated by the nerd community and his run with the character is ending one way or another. I haven't been pleased with any animated portrayal of Superman since Superfriends. They don't inspire respect. Of the other movies you mentioned I think "Under the Red Hood" is sadly underrated and "Crisis on Two Earths" is the most passable despite its screwball alternate universes storyline. "All Star Superman" did no justice to the book and "Year One" was one of those stories that probably shouldn't have been translated to film in the first place, though I enjoyed it. "New Frontier" had me until the ending, but that battle is not the show-stopper that belonged at the end of that story. As for "Public Enemies" and "Apocalypse" I reserve for them the same level of contempt you have for JLDoom and I apologize to myself for having spent some of my time on Earth watching them.

I'd have to give Doom a 6/10. I didn't hate it, but meh.

It was really about pimping out the "New Coke DCU" hence they butchered McDuffie's script, force Rosenbaum to voice Sir Barry of Boring instead of Wally, chose Hal

Jordan over John Stewart (or Kyle since he was in the orginal story) including Cyborg while using JLU as a cloak for the New 52 bullshit.

The moment the anounce Hal, Barry, Cyborg and Vandal Savage I wash my hands off buying any DC DTV ever again.

I will cheerfully recant if I hear the story and like it (John Dorney's done some promising work in the past, so this is one of the ones I was looking forward to). Unfortunately, I heard Nick Briggs' 'Destination Nerva', and thought it was utter, utter shit in precisely the ways I had expected it to be, and the two "missing adventures", 'Valley Of Fear' and 'Foe From the Future' served largely to emphasize that Robert Holmes and Phil Hinchcliffe did a pretty good job of choosing which stories to make and which ones to discard in the first place, which doesn't do much to undermine my suggestion that lazy nostalgia is still the heart of Big Finish's marketing strategy right now. For fuck's sake, they're actually using the tagline "It's Saturday teatime in 1977 all over again" for a line of stories being produced over a decade into the 21st century - why not just go with "Calling all middle-aged catpiss men: don't worry, we'll make the scary modern world go away and make everything better" and have done with it?

 

I'm not completely against the whole thing - for a start, Tom Baker himself is turning out to be far better at recapturing the role than I'd expected him to be, and his chemistry with Louise Jameson is a joy to listen to. But the overall direction of the company right now seems to be aimed at exactly the sort of backwards-looking, insular nerdery which has been killing mainstream comics for the past decade or two, and which nearly killed Doctor Who back in the 80s.That sort of thing gets my arrogant nerdrage going like nobody's business.

 

It'd also be a lot more forgivable if they weren't charging fifty fucking quid for the "Lost Stories" box, which is downright obscene for two stories. I appreciate that their margins are incredibly tight, and that Tom is probably demanding an absolute fortune to do this at all, but that sort of price is getting into "was this actually worth bothering with? " territory, so far as I'm concerned.

 

Yes, I'm being a bit of a dick about this. But damnit, can't people just be a bit less crap?

Right there, in bold. That's DC and Marvel's indian love call to their inner bastard step-children.

Then again Gary Russell's no more guilty of defining canon during the later part of his reign (a BIG mistake, mind) than Nick Briggs' NuWho flavor. Paticularly, the recent 6th Doctor companion Phillipa "Flip" Jackson, the NuEDAs' Derbyshire in a blender theme, pandering to the very small minority who dislike the concept of Frobisher who yet defend RTD's deus ex machinas and the 10th Doctor's characterzation to the death, I could go on.

I'll put up with Destination Nerva before the Nest Cottage saga (and The Boy That Time Forgot) and this is coming from someone who adore most of Paul Magrs' BF material.

I suppose he does a bit. Far less irritating, though...

It gotta be the hair.

If these BF stories turn out to offer substantially more than nostalgia I'll be absolutely delighted to recant my scepticism, but I'll also be quite surprised.

Then recant away, sunshine! Check of the glowing review for The Wrath of the Iceni: Here

Mind you, the Companion Chronicles range has a lot of hits these days (i.e. Solitaire, The Sara Kingdom and Oliver Harper trologies from Simon Guerrier) and only two misses (Fear of the Daleks and Beyond the Ultimate Adventure by Terrence "Undo Borusa's fate knowing fucking no other writer will follow up on it nor created the damned character" Dicks)

Managed to catch the pilot and the first episode online. I rather like it while the most die-hard of Douglas Adams fans would rebuke it harder than the Hitchhiker's movie.

Is it me or does Stephen Mangan looks a tad bit like Tim Burton (sans Helena Bonham-Carter by his side)?

Titanium eye socket?! God damn!!!

It's death by mau mau.

I was thinking Snu-Snu, but Milligan robbed himself of that by his piss-poor writing.

On the basis of names, someone should have nominated Storm Constantine as a choice for #1.

I would've had not Devin Grayson ruined it ten years ago

1) China Mieville, Stephen King, Steven Hall (of Big Finish's Doctor Who Word Lord stories and The Raw Shark Texts fame),

2) Jeff Lemire, Scott Snyder, Brian Wood

3) Cameron Stewart, Yanick Paquette, Josh Adams (son of Neal)

I'm sort with Lou on this. While the idea of a Watchmen follow up seems pointless, I do like most of the creators they're using. Especially, Darwyn Cooke doing The Minutemen & Azz/Bermejo on Rorshach.....but....do these need to 4 or 6 parts EACH!?! Add it all up and it's longer than the original. I think it'd be better to have a 48 page one-shot for each.

 

Yeah...I really doubt I'll be buying this, and I haven't even looked at any of the New 52. DC just doesn't interest me anymore.

As long as Soap Opera-addled ponce like DiDio and traitors like Geoff Johns and Jim Lee remain in power, DC's fucked.

Also! For DemonChas, while I'm spamming the thread anyway...I'd be a lot more excited by the prospect of Big Finish doing Fourth Doctor audios (even with that pesky "written by Nicholas Briggs" label on several of them, which is as convincing an anti-recommendation for a Doctor Who story as I can think of) if it wasn't for the fact that more than half of them will apparently be featuring prominently stuff from the original TV show. Seriously, BF's first "season" of new stories with a Doctor for whom some of these writers have been waiting decades to write, and "Return to Nerva Beacon!" "Return of the Master!" and "Return of the Daleks!" are the best ideas they can come up with?

 

The Fourth Doctor's TV era featured fewer returning enemies than any other, which is pretty impressive considering that it also lasted almost twice as long as most of the others. For all the problems with the Paul Magrs-written Tom Baker plays which BBC Audio have been putting out for the past three years, they're at least trying to do something genuinely new with the character and format, which is far more in keeping with the spirit of the original series they're homaging than this sort of uninspired let's-just-do-more-of-what-worked-in-the-past recycling. I'll probably check them out if the reviews are good enough, but I'm not excited by the prospect at all.

The only anti-recommendation that springs to mind them inviting John Picard back as Thomas Brewster

The scarf god is back!

Oh, it was ok. Superman sticks out like a bloody sore thumb. As far as Alec revealing what he did to Supes, he could have said all that to anybody. Note to DC: we don't need capes in our horror.

Tell that to the mindless fuckers who still assume having Swamp Thing back among the capes would boost sales.*

Vol. 1(1972-76) didnt last and neither will this.

I didn't vote for Cornell for the very same reason some people didn't vote for Morrison/Rucka - i expect him to take over Hellblazer for a few years after Milligan, for example, which is something I don't think we'd ever see from those other guys.

Can it be next year? Not really digging Milligan's turn

*twitches like Chief Inspector Dreyfus*

I'll throw my hat into the No Chibnall ring

"You know what I think? FUCK YOU!"

Nevermind Great Expectations, it's The Venture Bros.!

Anyone heard the recent 8th Doc audios?

Lady Johanna, I presume?

I got it and I'm already aware of the 2011 news.

This beats the living shit out of last year's animated Who offering Dreamland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwbWpBxosvo

*Big Finish alert* Here's something you didn't see coming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeEJQXsSK0o&feature=player_embedded