lady_constantine

NO FUCKING CW!!! I dont want Berlanti tainting it with his New 52 leanings

actually,much as I wanna trash nu52 i still would pay to see nick necro having his way with john while zatanna watches...waste of perfectly good fan (dis) service .not in this life time though

-one more song.

A.F.I's version of 'Don't Change'-makes me think of 'Non est Asylum'...and John attempting to off himself.I'm morbid enough that that happened.

Also 'A.F.I' Conductor from the latest album 'Burials' (don't buy ,this album sux azz) that song is a straight up Constantine/Nick Necro/Zatanna

so...does it say 'thou shall not be homosexual' anywhere? show me and quote it...thank you

-hi everyone! wanna introduce myself (i am so late...i joined yesterday or a few days ago but,here i am)

I am new to the site (duh) and new to this fandom.I kinda always ignored the existance of Hellblazer because I always did that with older comics becaus ethe golden age superhero stuff made me wanna throw things...I was playing Injustice and kicking ass with Zatanna...and on a forum some dude named John Constantine came up and I was like...oh,that Kanu Reeves movie that I thought was awesome.WRONG.I looked into it and found Hellblazer.

I took to it because I'm a narcissist...actually no,I took to it because I was notorious for fucking around with the occult in highschool to the point where I was called 'Witch! Witch!' in the halls,to which I responded with a voodoo doll with an x'd heart and said person's name... my dad grew fearful and paranoid and made me get rid of everything and I stopped hanging out at the occult shop..

Anyway,so some backstory and how Hellblazer became personal...or not I hate Conjob,but he's hot stuff,so sue me.If I met him in real life,I would ask to be his apprentice with intent to off him...

But I had this conversation with someone and realize,we share disturbing simularities in backstory and other things ..It scares me because I know if I made a wrong turn I could've ended up in a more down to earth,true to life version of his fucked life.

So..

Things in common?

Runaway girl who ended up in a nuthouse.Been homeless before too...and I totally met John

-A runaway on multiple accounts.First time I ended up in a halfway house for that and...reasons I rather not discuss

While there I fell in love with a blonde haired,blue eyed smartass named John with an abusive dad and a dead mom...I never asked his last name...but guess who he fucking looks like? I also met him years later in the winter and he was dressed for job interview.He had on a suit and tie and a beige trenchcoat and was smoking by the train station.I didn't recognize him,but he recognized me and called me over.

I asked what became of him and he hugged me and told me I helped him through the most difficult time in his life (we were also in therapy together).He wanted me to come back to New York with him but I turned it down because I'm an idiot.So it was really weird when I came across a particular picture of Conjob and it immeditatly reminded me of John so hard I friggin' triggered and I cried for near an hour.So much shit.

I also remember an incident from the nut house where John stole some newports (no silk cuts,my Johnnny wasn't a brit..) and we snuck into an empty room and got our smoke on...i was already craving the smokes cuz of secondhand smoke from child hood...smoked my first one at seven and my last at sixteen when I found out we had family members with lung cancer .So I dodged that one.Oddly enough I was so out of it (I was on drugz and other stuff) and I don't even know what the place was called.I just remember the other people staying with me,very vividlyJust that they took my shoes,my room mate talked to herself,I had a fucking birthday in there and they gave me a better birthday than my own family...I was stubborn as a mule and drew A LOT of disney princess,especially princess belle.

-The Second time I ran away ,I was on a drug induced haze from pain pills after a sprained knee that to this day,I never recovered from.While under the influence,I literally walked from philadelphia to another fucking city over night,only to be found passed out by a police station and not knowing where the fuck I was.

.I SUCKED AT RUNNING AWAY!

One thing that sticks out is that everyone thought I was a prostitute and kept trynna offer me money for sex...wtf??!

-I'm a grown ass woman now so when I run off this time,it's for keeps.I just need a driver's license ,a nice laptop ,an mp3 player and headphones,a pocket knofe,some waterproof stuff ,a sleeping bag and pillows,and a pocket full of cash...I've slept under bridges and washed up in public bathrooms and all that before so it's no biggy.When you've been homeless long enough,you start to improvise,you forget things and days run together...it's like time stops and only things that matter are...not ,much matters.But then,you become desperate when someone offers a hand and sometimes judgement will lasp.I think I can manage though.Long as I can get to college everyday,I'll be alright..or not

Bisexual and lovin' it...

-I also found out and confirmed I was bisexual in the nuthouse.Because before John was Jillian...who had ADHD and kinda looked like Harry Potter with blonde hair (not because of the glasses.without them she was even more beautiful in a manly way,looked like daniel radcliff not so much harry potter).

The Conjob

When I was a deliquent kid,I did some shit that I am NOT proud of.Even rounded up a gang of misfits for some fun things that pay off.When not in depressed mode,I was notorious for getting people to do anything (being a pretty girl with hige tits may have contributed...I have since gained aLOT of weight...maybe for the best) dare not speak of these things becasue I don't wanna go to jail.I do stupid in spades,but I ain't that dumb.That is all.

On gender

I am aware that I am female bodied,but my psyche is often more androgynous.I done swung between hyper-fem to straight butch so many times that I accepted that I'm kinda both.I think it's awesome that most of John Constantine's prominant AU selves are females ...and the last Laughing Magician was a chick...AM I THE ONLY PERSON NOTICING THIS...

I dabbled in the Occult...and joined a coven but botched the ceremony...I think

Okay,so I am/was a ' petty dabbler '.It all started when I was swooning over this guy (I know...it's a pattern) that I was head over heals for,and he took me down to an abandoned basement and...NO...we did not do that! he showed me some occult stuff.We did a bonding ritual (much like constantine,nick necro and zatanna.No threeway relationship though...but I'm open to options) .I was suppose to mark my astro sign,the moon so he could cast the stone into the lake.I have no idea if it worked...just that I can't seem to see anyone in a better light than him.Damn.Maybe it worked.

I also left some planetary sigils in an abandoned school building that may have brought somethin' about..dunno really.I thinkit's safe.I am also notorious for unfinished spells

My very own Newcastle...kinda.I wasn't that stupid but then I was

Anyway,unlike Mr.Constantine,after I accidently summoned some freaky shit (chanting names of gods and dieties that begun with a bakwards ,ending with Asmodeus 3x and blowing out a black candle in front of my closet.I did it on a dare to scare a cousin who thought I was a charlatain...sometimes I am.I had a pentagram right side up taped to the damn door and some unidentified powders an' shit ...turns out the Pentagram fell donw! And was now satanic...so then for the next year or so ,I would go to sleep and wake up half naked and feel hands on me.I would see gold eyea and some weird shit would be standing in front of my closet.Threw salt over there every day to stave the bastard off.

(Side note..IRL,spirits an shit you feel more than see.I get light headed and esperience vertigo in holloween so...).Eventually,I conrfronted the thing in my closet and I saw some dark shit before passing out.I could NOT get up and eventually some other thing chased it away.I thought I was insaned until my SISTER,woke up crying saying it harrassed her and the same exact thing happedned.I bullshit you not I swear to god...anyway so then the second being who chased the first one off beckoned me to follow it and I felt myself being sucked away...I told it no and I ended up here.I to this day wonder what would've happened if I crossed the other side...on a good note I did NOT go back to the nuthouse...actually I wanted to go back and didn't wanna leave.I wanted to stay there,honest on my sould.I wasn't so much as tortured as drugged up,fed placebos,a bunch of fucked mind games..they read my morbid shit and said I was psycho.I might be ,but fuck you ,who are you to judge?

as for my creepy spirit thing I just had the shakes and all that for two weeks straight which is normal as I have severe anxiety .

I started a band!

Actually,I was bullshiting.This didn't happen ONLY because I couldn't get enough money for a descent guitar and amps.Unlike his shit band,I knew a chick who could sing,a guy with serious drum skill and another chick who could handle them keys.We didn't have a gutarist...we're black and black people don't play guitars so that went out.

In conclusion...

I got some serious fucking problems,John's got problems...simular fucking problems and stupidly simular ways of coping (i can't afford to be a drunk now,plus I sound like a cute baby when I drink ...don't ask ,i got nuthin').I no longer smoke...and as a result,now I'm fatt-ish (ok,I'm straight up BBW status right now.If only I could sleep at night,then I could probably lose some damn weight and keep it off).It's funny watching a character who's a worse version of myself play out and I like how acurate some of the occult stuff is.A good amount though,is just straight ass-pull.The Constantine tv show and fuck,even the movie had a bit more accuracy (though LARGELY EXAGGERATED.Occult in real life is all about the feels.In light of that,his ability to do Synchronicity wave travelling would make the penultimate spell worker or whatever).Now keep in mind ,I am in no way as awesome as Conjob...I just suck almost as much as he does...as a girl I got off easy with a cute face,nice legs and a huge rack,where as though he had to get elaborate.I also don't lead friends to their death...though I wish some of my questionable expolits went differently.Just glad I didn't personally get anyone locked up

So that was my intimate hellblazer connection .That and also the tone,and mood (especially ennis,gaimen and delano) are what inspire my love for hellblazer....not for John though...he was too old for his shit and I REALLY wanted him to get his.Thanks ,S.W for sending that fuck to jail.And thank you anyone who actually had the audacity to read this shit.Story of me life,good night mates ! Cheers

sorry...literally just joined...yesterday? my bad

yo,MK x ...it's a beautiful thing.I got it on xbox one and ...not spoiling anything,juts get it already

Damn.another person I wanted to meet and never will.Rest in Peace,fellow writer

please put it in del torro's hands.

and i always was pissed at the name justice leauge dark :( dark universe is much better

The flash = LUV

ironically,i never liked the comic and the only one i even gave half a damn about was kid flash/impulse and that was from watching that damn young justice cartoon which was da shit

hell yes.why put it on NBC??? CW probably would've been better ,you are right about that.but i'll be honest,you know what really fucked Constantine?

Supernatural.

If it can't compete with grimm or supernatural or something of the sort then it's doomed.

also,on another note,maybe BBC...maybe the show should've actually been british,so that it could pull more from the original sources,have it set motsly in london.and a good starting point is the Dangerous habbits arch with flashbacks from Delano's run and run ins with some of those folks and John's nightmares a frequent feature (I know earth-3 constantine was based off the dangerous habbits arc,but we could even throw in an explanation for it as if I', correct,John mentioned Keanusteen at some point,meaning he's aware of the existance of this other entity).There were so many directions this could've gone,but none were taken.

do like the extra chas participation

A typically thoughtful, well-written, worthwhile column by Republican David Brooks:

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Op-Ed Columnist

Darkness at Dusk

By DAVID BROOKS

Published: November 10, 2008

 

The debate between the camps is heating up. Only one thing is for sure: In the near term, the Traditionalists are going to win the fight for supremacy in the G.O.P.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/11/opinion/11brooks.html?_r=1

 

This is a subject that's greatly interested since the last 1.5 months of the 2008 U.S. presidential campaigns: how will the Republicans change themselves so they can come back from their losses in this election?

 

Brooks describes the two groups I've been seeing in the conversation, what he calls the Traditionalists, who are basically Hooverite/Goldwaterite/Reaganite conservatives, the standard Republican conservatives of today, and the Reformers, policy moderaters, folks who are willing to soften this or that policy area, though many (most?) of these people are down the line conservatives otherwise, and/or are hold the line conservatives in one area or another (often economics).

 

The Traditionalists as I see them are rigid in their thinking and unable to change, and believe (or say they do) that there must be NO changes from staunch conservative thinking in the Republican Party as it goes into future elections. The Reformers believe that there must be some kind of change, though they don't agree on what those changes should be. The conversation is kind of fascinating though, at least to see how far the Reformers are willing to go in changing things in the GOP. This conversation and the political maneuverings related to it have barely started, so it's not at all clear where things might go, but what Brooks predicts makes sense.

 

I think he and I agree that people in this country have as a whole turned away from modern Republican conservatism, and aren't going to turn back toward it anytime soon, so the Republican party MUST change in order to remain electorally relevant. My belief is the Republicans have been knocked for a loop by the last 6 months of this last election, and will to a degree run around with their heads up their asses and their hands outstretched blindly stumbling around, as people will when they are part of a group that has suffered a great defeat which its dominant belief system won't allow it to face. Out of situations like this come a great deal of stupidity and bad leadership, but also small but important flashes of brilliance, creativity and a new crop of leaders, and perhaps the obsoleting of a whole bunch of current older GOP leaders. And where the hardcore conservatives who can't/won't change will go will be worth watching too.

yeah,well the reason republicans are not as popular is becasue my generation is old enough to vote and we're not trynna take things back to the 50's,and 60's segregationist,white lie ,apple pie fantasy that alot of those folks falsely recall with a twisted fondness.It's the reason I refuse to sit on the back of the bus on public transit .

And yes,I am one of like five black people on the site.It's still progress,right?

What the fuck.

Okay,I will give them credit for coming with something like this,for having the balls to make this an actual thing and not a half drunk conversation with your mates.

Bravo

Oh god, here comes the "I DONT LIKE GAY SHIT BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS THIS AND THAT" -_-

And those same people go engae in adultry,wanton lust,drink like sailors,all kinds of monetary greed,treachery...yeah I just love how people take the bible in their own damn context whenever they want

lol

I check out the comments for a good laugh.So don't take it seriously.So apparantly ,Constantine is hated for being a gay satanist...yeah that about sums it up.Funny thing is I know people in real life who makes these kinda comments...it's frankly,quite depressing

 

Welcome to the STH family, kid!

thanx ! glad to be here :)

because gaiman is a friggin genius.

that he is

not trying to be offensive or anything, but if you basically would make a true blood with jc i am out. the point in time when hellblazer went full soap opera, aka the reign of he who shall not be named was the worst period in the whole comic... by far.

not quite what i mean and none taken...there was things about true blood that pissed me off so badly...that list too long to name.i was just talking about in as far as levels of censorship....could've said game of thrones or spartacus,or penny dreadful ,but i was aiming for modern times.besides...it'd be a bit difficult to pull a constantine soap opera when people keep dropping like flies .

what i do like about the constantine show really are more chas and manny being there

On the one hand, hopefully this will mean something more creative done on Constantine, as the creators seem like DC is going for something different here.

On the other hand, Ray Fawkes really isn't a terrible writer, as shown by his creator owned work.

Moving back to the first hand, outside of all the stupid cross-over shite, the Constantine plots weren't that bad. If they were just written in a less straightforward manner the book could have been much more enjoyable.

On the other hand, I don't think there's anything very positive you can do with DCU John Constantine as long as he carries such a horrible back-story, so hopefully DC jettison that with the big event.

Staying on that hand, the book being called "Constantine:THE Hellblazer" keeps my trepidations. It's not simply sub-titled "Hellblazer", it's saying that John Constantine is a Hellblazer, whatever the hell that is.

I am glad that DC will continue to publish a Constantine comic book, really. Even though the New 52 version has been a horrible misfire, I really didn't want to see John Constantine totally off the stands. Hopefully, DC has learned from all the problems of the "New 52".

so...i was thinking,if constantine was a hellblazer and he learned from nick necro...he should be a hellblazer too,right?

Hellblazer:Necro

Nick Necro kickin' demon ass on the streets of new york .eventually,like a pimp,he snags two hotties,(john and zatanna) and takes them along for the ride .

okay ,on a serious note though,let conjob be the dark twisted bastard that he is! it's what makes him him and if you try to clean him up,it's no good.John is who he is because he lived a shit life,and that's what makes him ,himself.The only thing that DCU did ghood for constantine was the injustice thing and the threeway thing between him,zatanna and nick necro.though a series about their travels would be Damn good.John and Nick doin' shady stuff behind zee's back .

u know,beating people shitless in alleyways,stealin' shit,takin' shady jobs,doing way more drugs than zee is and tryna drag her into it,pickpocketing ,interrogatting people,shake downs,Nick Necro out and out being a thug and Johnny goin' along with it like it's okay.Nick hands Zatanna all the nice things while john and him do the dirty business (and do dirty things in public stalls)...and then turn around and go helpin' people like saints.

as for milligan's run,I don't like the inconsitant stories and i couldn't do the epiphany thing...you'd think having a neice would make him less of a pervert...couldn't she be thirty? it had all kinds of unfortunate implications and really,most young girl like me don;t want an old man unless he is oozing money...even if he is the hellblazer...i mean her pop had money,had juice so no reason to even look his way...i'mn just sayin'..not to mention the kiddy crush thing...yuk.and the end was anti-climatic.i also think SOMEBODY should've done mor ewith th laughing magician thing...gaimen handled it best...

well,i'm an open closet girl,i swing both ways and go by an ask and i will answer policy (it's really not your business unless i am fucking you...which constantine seems to abide by,yay) .

as for political topics,they have to be subtle and not inyour face or else people will roll eyes.there can be mentions of racism,say john might've shagged some black girl and the next day the police is raided by the police for no damn reason at all .john looks into it finds out about some neo-nazi satanistic cult behind it.

or he may go see a psychic on the regular who happens to be transgendered (a trans madame xanadu would be awesome...bonus points for john being in a past relationshop with her.him).Or john himself being a victim of hatecrimes because of his sexuality (say if piss drunk john comes onto a guy who beats the shit out of him,or punches him int the face,,,this can be a regular thing for him)going to see Genma who's in highschool and teenage problems...like say a school dance where kids are given a drug that will set them up for a massive ritual to steal their souls,perverted teacher (who john beats up in a praking lot for coming onto his neice)things like that.the writers have little grasp of the whole hellbalzer experience.

-i think it should've done it,and the same folks who did true blood should've made it.then we could have our blood and violence,bisexy johnny and hot chicks n' death n's stuff.not to mention all the damn drugs ,etc

also ,it could be called 'Hellblazer'

i would pay to see john hit on a chick,only for her boyfriend to confront him,and he ends up going home with both (or it could be two chicks...both would work)...only to find that they were demons/vampires/werewolves or whatever and proceeds to deal with them accordingly.he then proceeds to rob his targets blind and leave the premises..he ends up stealing something imprortant,a psychic goes into said place to find out who did it and confronts john who wanted to sell/retrieve said item and shit proceeds to hit the fan from there.

That's your pilot episode

or it could start out with john getting the shit kicked out of him and he can do his monoloauge thing explaing how he fucked up...and th pyrric victory that comes from it.

-yeah ,I say injustice constantine came the closest to our favorite hellblazer.new52 constantine had him a combination of too much of a bastard and not enough of a bastard...somehow they did that.and nick necro is like a slightly more deranged constantine so idk what that was.it was like they almost tired to make him a good guy but the good guy/bad guy dynamic with constantine and necro didn't do it for me...nick really just acts like john's crazy ex-boyfriend.period.and as for john and zatanna ...how did you miss that BOTH of your boyfriends were crazy bastards?! i really did like deadman though,he was awesome,shade was kinda cool but i gotta read more...

but to the point injustice!constantine did it for me and the motivation being his bastard child Rose ,in character.He was a failure dad (no duh,failure is the only option with this guy) so now he treis (and fails!) to do good.Also ,Rose as the next Laughing Magician in some DCU ,I would look forward to that...maybe be a teen titan one day and goe toe to toe with raven's daughter...or shack up with her son...or daughter (y'know they say it's hereditary).Not to mention cinstantine and batman were awesome together...which made me think of S.W Manor ...i hope this was a coincidence..

Verdict?

Injustice constantine ftw

new52...:sigh:

yes ,a hellblazer fanfic...these are hard to come by.I will check your stuff out soon as i can and get back to you

the killers remake of 'shadowplay'

where good girls go to die by london after midnight (it's in the tittle man...)

citizen erased by muse

and yes i agree suffer well by depeche mode...

believe by the bravery

honestly okay by dido

lovesong by the cure (john and kit ryan)

a perfect circle the noose

going in blind P.O.D - john period

recreational user like the rest of us...'cept when he's doin' really weird shit