lady_constantine

poor egos are hurt.

really,men are use to stepping on women for years and due to our deeply misogynistic culture,a woman being on par for a man is a shameful thing.Competition from the weaker sex is not welcomed...at least that is the perception.

Fun fact: X chromosomes are naturally stronger than Y chromosmes...women are two X's,men are not.Wrap your head around this

Still....those damn boots

tba

No.

 

As someone on facebook pointed out Guggenheim has a rep for trolling when it comes to the Arrow fanbase. This is a prime example of the trolling.

 

I hope he isn't. I like this.

Not many of us don't. Knowing Guggenheim he'd go to the failed New 52 version. I'd rather Ragman get fucked up instead

n00b52 is kinda a pain...but some of the concepts work (like justice league dark,stupid name,good concept) .they should just hybridize it all

okay,i can deal...but those boots ,man,those boots

We'll see.I am a fan of both the flash and arrow and gotham is good too.I must say I am impressed with comics becoming mainstream,it shows a change in people's attitudes towards it.

He didn't kill him. He actually made him immortal. The guy should thank John!

And, hell yeah, that proves John isn't trying to get rich! If he had money, or wanted to pretend he was in a higher income bracket than he actually was, he wouldn't mind the rent increase. It wasn't the Young Republicans singing "Let's Lynch the Landlord", it was the Dead Kennedys!

yeah,john seems more like a paycheck to...whenever i get some money type guy.i mean really,he could be rich ,but he isn't

That's the accusation that has been used for years.

 

I imagine it's more complicated, as usual. An inflated sense of male privilege seeing women "encroaching" into "male" spaces ( no longer even traditionally male spaces), brought up with sexist ideas around them. A belief that girls/women have more advantages & are more successful. An internet echo chamber that reinforces those ideas. Etc.

Maybe...but PERSONAL EXPERIENCE says that its the former.I actually know these type of guys

Really he is thrown off enough that he might be known as that crazy white dude if he plays his cards right and get on the right people's good side...and do something messed up like laugh at somebody with a gun to his face and ...do something weird...

Have you seen the synopsis for the first two issues?

The plot is going to heavily focus on the Newcastle ghosts.

It sounds like it's going to be based on continuity from the Alan Moore Swamp Thing era.

I haven't seen any mention of DCU characters appearing in the first two issues, at least.

I also read that there's going to be a lot more introspection for the character, which is a very good step. Constantine lacked pretty much any characterization for John Constantine. He was a guy who liked to screw people over, and that was about all the depth there was to him. A big reason, for me, that Constantine failed so bad was that the stories were so shallow, there was no meat to anything.

YES.THANK YOU

yea, i was wondering what happened with syfy. they wanted to rename it " hellblazer " , which i think is something they should do. or atleast " john constantine : hellblazer " .

 

and actually,that could work.it's syfy.

 

though it seems a little weird to call the clean version hellblazer.idk. they should probably let syfy grab it

 

I wouldn't call ass shots in Ascension or the TV-MA Almighty Johnsons clean.

oh I know,i'm just referring to constantine vs hellblazer

Jason-Yeah, I guess that's why Ennis' John sounded like a 20-something, considering Ennis was like 21 when writing Hellblazer. Compared to the older-seeming Delano John being under 40.

 

I think Lady Constantine certainly has a point as to why it was harder to write John as an aging character, nearly at 60. It would have required the character to chance, and basically after the Paul Jenkins run, John stopped changing. He was aging in real life, but his characterization remained pretty consistent. It was the template Constantine written by Mike Carey, based on Ennis' characterization, but updated a bit.

Of course, we saw some changes with Azzarello and Milligan, but those were more just from bad interpretations of the character, rather than a real attempt to see John grow as a character, like under Jenkins.

Milligan regressed the character.

 

Alan Moore liked Azzarello's take, I assume, due to Azzarello wanting to take John back to basics. The whole mystery man intruding in others' lives, and often not for the better. That was Constantine under Moore.

The issue there is that when Moore was writing John, he was a supporting character in another character's book. It's hard to keep that sort of character going when they have their own title, which requires characterization and background.

It also gets hard to do after the book has been running for over 100 issues, and readers already know the background of this character. The character may seem dark and mysterious to strangers, but the readers just see it as poor characterization.

Plus, it is surprising that Moore liked Azzarello's version, considering that Azzarello's version was actually immoral. Moore's John was the most heroic incarnation of the character. Something we rarely saw of John during the Hellblazer run, where we thought of him as an anti-hero. Yes, he did good things. Yes, at times he showed heroic sides. But, for the most part, he was amoral. Under Moore, we saw John actually willing to sacrifice himself for the greater good and such.

So, Azzarello's version is really the furthest removed from Moore's version, even though Azzarello did sort of go "back to basics".

 

I don't really view John as an amoral bastard. I thought he was just some guy with bad luck struggling to keep shit together, and I wanted him that way.

yes,he was a breath of fresh air next to 'caped crusaders'...he was human.i had learned to see azarello's john as some other entity (the laughing magician) and i just couldn't with miligan.i think he was unlucky havinbg to get to john at such a late point in the hellblazer series more than anything

exactly...this is a burden i kinda carry as a black female.a lot of the writers that i admire are...white males. Jim Butcher,Neil Gaiman,Alan Moore ,Poppy Z Brite and (female)Laurel K. Hamilton.

For me,the best black authors were mostly those who wrote literary works/civil rights/jim crow era like Tony Morrison,Langston Hughs,Zora Neal Hurston.People who have done more Contemporary stuff (80's to now)...there is a lack of people who look like my self especially in the comic/scif/fantasy/urban fantasy department...who are any good. I do really like 'Fledgling' by Octavia butler (vampire novel) .I do have a spot in my heart for Dwayne McDuffiie (may he rest in peace) other than that? I got nuthin'.

White folks can carefully brush over racism as the reaction to is is nowhere as strong.For you,turn the page? Me? Throw the book down in disgust and spend the next few hours questioning my racial identity and reflecting on the world.

There does seem to be a new breed who are all on the young side.

for the most part ,guys my age who are sexist either have mommy issues or don't get laid,plain and simple

So that they can head off inappropriate discussion/rumours. Sure, it's nobody's business but people will talk and if it reduces the canteen stares then I'll survive it.

probably for the best...it's either they tell everyone or you tell them.they're gonna have to know eventually.

yea, i was wondering what happened with syfy. they wanted to rename it " hellblazer " , which i think is something they should do. or atleast " john constantine : hellblazer " .

and actually,that could work.it's syfy.

though it seems a little weird to call the clean version hellblazer.idk. they should probably let syfy grab it

KEEP. CW. AWAY.

 

CW is way too teen drama driven to be able to do Constantine justice. Look at Supernatural. Despite the gore and macho stuff, it's written to appeal to a younger teen demographic, while Constantine is more towards a mature comic book demographic. I don't see Constantine fitting well with CW because I feel it would be toned down with its style and clash with the other shows.

mature comic book demographic is a very small one ,unfortunately.it's probably why they opted for constantine instead of hellblazer

I hope for more John/Batman interactions in the future T_T

aaand next time john will be met with a punch in the face...at least in that universe

still though,they had great chemistry and work damn well together. constantine+batman vs anyone else= totally fuck'd

in think it translated pretty well to screen.gotham feels ALMOST like a real city.i find myself having a love /hate relationship with penguine

suicide squad would just be a better movie

They haven't even made a Justice League movie, and they're already planning on this??

i was never a fan of justice league.this though,i dig

i agree that matt ryan's lack of a resemblance to sting is annoying/disappointing, but otherwise he owned the role.

he did damn good as constantine...but where the hell do we find an actor that looks like sting?

A month after the elections, there's finallya coalition in the Israeli parliament. It's not a good one either.

this surprises no one...let's see how long this lasts

so...i heard hp lovecraft was a racist bastard.chased me away from the cthulu mythos.honestly,i was heartbroken at that

azzarello missed the essence of what made john human and tried to make him come off as some sort of sociopath, so he loses points. i liked hard time and freezes over though.

jamie delano is obviously one of everyone's favs.

alan moore, the originator <3

garth ennis i enjoyed for the most part , just reread the "confessional " story and i'll be damned if that isn't brilliant.

mike carey's was pretty awesome.

 

and i'll admit, i agree with your thoughts on keanusteen. that movie was also what got me into the character.

 

 

new 52 can sod off.

 

yes,sociopath was the word.that particular john,i found myself wanting to harm

 

Yeeeah that John was creepy as fuck. Like him just walking into a bingo night with some prostitute he found on the block and being a giant creepy prick on purpose was odd as shit.

And then the whole thing with Manor was even more underhanded even for John. I compare this John with Frank Miller's "Goddamn" Batman.

 

True. I can't believe Alan Moore thought this was the best Constantine.

 

 

Azzarello just doesn't know when to stop writing Joker.

oh! i just caught that.yup.the joker.the joker and the laughing magician